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Gracious for bringing up a truly great thread.

The funny thing was, it was a few day thing...I think he was just on a really bad acid trip

Heather Takatsu does have a certain ring to it...ya gotta admin that By the way, you enjoying your summer off or are you teaching summer school?

Thats it...Heads and Ivan...Heads if your out their...we demand more stories. They were the most f'd up stories I'd ever read. My god, I need more...I need that fix.

SuperSteff to save the day

Steve, I go to a state school too, u can't be showing me up like that We gotta team up against those University bastards

I'll show off my CSUF education by summarazing the 20 pages for ya Reportedly Maggs and Rauch for Jones/Ortiz. GO TITANS (Up 1-0 with Winsdor most likely pitching tomorrow against Texas).

Was that the one where he was talking about being like the General of Soxtalk or something. Someone needs to bring that post up, that was the funniest post in the history of Soxtalk. Plus it had Heads with his weird ass stories about Heads and someone

I truly believe he'd hit 40 hr's here and if he hit .270, that would be more then adaquate for me to say he's the best centerfielder in the majors. I'll trade one of the better right fielders in the game for the best centerfielder in the game whose signed to an affordable deal, compared to what the Sox would have to pay for Maggs. Plus they get Ortiz.

Like any rumor who knows. I'd say most of the rumors point to the Sox being interested in Ortiz/Andrew Jones. But anything can happen and typically does happen. However, with Maggs on the DL, it will be interesting if a trade will be soon or whether it would be one of those things where they waited a few days for Maggs to come off, even though he technically could be activated anyday.

And we thought Marte was injured :banghead

Just to add a little more to our previous statement, but pitching is our problem and we get pitching, while still keeping a solid bat offensively. We also get a guy thats a pitchers best friend, which in turn is like making each one of our pitchers, just a little bit better. The Sox have proven they can score runs without maggs. In this case, we get a little less productive offensive Maggs, a front line starter, and assistance to each and every starter. We also get to know that the Sox don't lose Maggs for nothing at the end of the year. The team is better now and next year....DING DING DING!!!!!! However, I would still love to see the Sox pick up another starter late in the season and of course at least another reliever, although I like Aboz idea of moving Diaz to the pen to replace Jackson.

What they would do is make it a ptbnl. The deal would then be finalized a year after Sweeney signed his contract (a few weeks after short season started last year) and then the Braves would announce the earlier deal with the White Sox has been completed as Ryan Sweeney has been shipped over.

Can anyone show me a pic of one of these shirts. Thanks

All you have to do is watch how many runs Jones saves a year and I can tell you straight up, if you put it into a computer, he's a more productive all around rated player than maggs. This may be a ballsy statement by me, but I have never in my life seen an outfielder make the plays he can. Their are a lot of guys that can go back on the ball like he has in major league history, but I can't think of anyone that can come in and make the plays he does. He is absolutely fantastic. Hell, Jones for Maggs straight up with the Braves taking on 1-2 mill a year of Jones salary is something I'd consider for the simple fact we get a guy thats 27 and signed for another few years at a relatively affordable contract considering he'll hit potentially 40 HR and hit .265-.275 in Chicago. I like Rowand and all, but he couldn't hold Jones freaking jock strap. Oh ya, over the past few years, Jones has hit righties better then lefties, so while he isn't a lefty, he at least doesn't get shut down by righties, at least not typically. The fact we fill another big time need by getting a pitcher. Not only a pitcher, but a guy that won 21 games last year. I could give a damn that the Braves scored a ton of runs, you still have to be good to win 21 games. His ERA is in the low 4's and he wasn't healthy early in the season and now he is and is pitching well. He also has postseason experience and has been an ace of a staff. This is exactly what the Sox need. He'll also go deep enough into games to the point that it will definately rest a bullpen. Folks, if Jones/Ortiz for Maggs is on the table then the Sox would be fools not to accept this deal. Worse case we keep Jones after the year and lose Ortiz for 2 picks while we already know we are losing Maggs. Jones is MARKETABLE. All I ask is to watch a few Braves games and see he will rob typcially a hit a game, if not more. Trust me, that will be beautiful to watch in Chicago.

Maggs wants about 15 mill a year (Vlad money) and Jones will average 13 mill the remaining 3 years of the deal so thats 6 mill over two years, plus a little bit less this year. The Sox also get a long term bat and I'd have to think Jones could be moved elsewhere if the Sox wanted to. This would be an interesting deal cause the Sox could get Andruw Jones in return, have Ortiz for the rest of the year and then at the end of the season if they let Ortiz walk, they get the two draft picks for him, just like they would of for maggs, but instead have Jones (the best defensive cf in the majors) in the Southside. I'd definately have to consider this deal, although the earlier Wunsch/Maggs for Clement Patterson deal was probably more intriguing, imo, mainly because of the lesser salary the Sox would of been taking. However, if the Braves picked up a little of Jones contract, like an addition 1-2 mill a year, then you really would have an interesting scenario. Also take into fact that he is hitting a respectable .262 away from Turner field in what is a down year for him and you'll notice that his numbers will definately go up in Chicago. Then again, he hit better in 2003 in Atlanta then he did on the road. Also in 2003 he hit .277 with 36 HR and 116 RBI. Thats pretty damn impressive considering he is a gold glove centerfielder.

I'd definately agree with that assessment.

He always walks like he's hurt, but he's a pimp.

I think this is a pretty good post and I've never been a huge fan of Livan, but I think you bring up a very good piont and I do think Livan could be had.

No, I wouldn't say that. Drew was probably the most talented young hitter to come out of the draft in a while.

But the Braves ended up giving up quite a bit to get him. Of course Joe Cowley's article in the Southtown says that the Sox tried to sign him as a free agent and that the Braves signed him first Oh ya, in that article he also mentions how Anderson, Sweeney and Borchard aren't to be involved in trade talks at least not for Russ Ortiz.

All I know is that this is very interesting. Have their been any reports saying the Sox are looking to make two deals and not one, since their have also been the rumors about Fassero/Meche. Hell, couldln't the Sox actually be moving Maggs to the Mariners for a package of Fassero/Piniero or Meche and something else? The Mariners haev long had interest in Maggs and then just work on getting Steve Finley to be the extra left handed bat in the lineup.

One thing, ORtiz is signed for another year I think.

Could the Sox be giving up another regular player and going after Ortiz, Smolt and a hitter??? Sounds to me like this may not be a deal that includes minor leaguers or at least very many of them.

He had an injury, but he played in the 2nd game last night (it was actually the 1st game; the earlier game was a continuation from last nights game). Reed was 2-3 in the secnod game. Hell, I think a little imte off would be good for Reed.