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I agree with you that Sheff is smart for not having an agent. No point in paying an agent huge bucks when you can just pay an attorney to do the fine print stuff for you and you get almost all the money. Although he didn't end up getting what he wanted from George (No deferred..over 40 mill) but he still is getting what George originally offered. I have to say, part of me felt George would just tell him to f off and he'd just sign Vladdy instead cause thats the kind of guy George is.

and according to Gammons the Sox will keep Nomar.

Exactly...they are the ones with the gun to their head. The reason they aren't doing the Dodger deal is they'd rather have Magglio then some prospects, because the Red Sox don't want to have a void in LF. I'd just say you either give us Williamson and Nomar for Maggs or you go take Odalis Perez

Thats exactly what this deal means. Well that or Guillen, but if they move Guillen then it means Spiezo is playing 3rd.

Personally I'll take the pitching. Just add a lesser rf signing, there will be some quality players out there for cheap. Hell, if the Sox are so damn willing to sign Nomar (Speculation) then just freaking deal him for the stud prospects and enter the Vladdy sweepstakes. *end fantasy*

He can deal him to LA and I am going to hope KW isn't dumb enough to throw in Cotts...for god sakes he has the Red Sox in a tough spot. They want Maggs, they don't want fillers from the Dodgers. If they deal Cotts, its my opinion that this turns into a horrible deal unless the Sox get Perez, Mota, Miller and Edwin Jackson for Nomar.

If we keep Nomar then sure I'm for it...as long as Cotts isn't a part of it. This also is contingent on the Sox getting pitching and increasing their budget to do it if they have to. As far as Jose...I think yes, but I don't know what the Sox are getting.

Never caught that...I have to believe Nomar is LA bound...but don't give up Cotts. And I have to say, more I think about it, just hold the Dodgers hostage get Mota and their two stud prospects and then use the freed up money to do things. There are things to worry about Nomar and keeping him around and losing him in the offseason would suck.

I'll s*** a brick if Cotts is part of the deal. It makes no sense to me why the Sox would have to give in one of their top prospects. Nomar isn't necessarily a stud. Magglio had proved he could hit in all parks, Nomar has not proved that. His road splits blow. I think playing full time away from Boston will fix that, but its a risk.

On ESPN News he said those are the most likely names. I'd be incredibly ticked off if they dealt Magglio and Cotts for Nomar and Williamson. I'm sorry, but Nomar is a bit over-rated because you have a huge ??? as to whether he can produce outside of beantown. If the BoSox demanded Cotts, I'd tell them to screw off...thats just my two cents. This is all speculation on Starks part though...if its Wright, i'd still be dissapointed. He also said the Sox won't deal Nomar to the Dodgers unless Mota is a part of the deal.

Thats what I think. I like the Hinrich selection

Was Bosh picked ahead of Hinrich...if not, thats the only guy I would of wanted over Hinrich. I'm a big Hinrich fan though. The move I never liked was bringing back Pippen.

ESPN NEWS originally reported it would be done by 3:00 eastern, although I highly doubt that.

Don't quite see it like that...I'm more along 2k's analysis. I do agree though, he better be ready, which is why I suggest offering Rauch for Washburn.

Thats good news...although I can't figure out why the Sox need to give up a young pitcher, unless they are somehow gettin cash considerations. I think Nomar and Williamson for Maggs is fair. I hope it isn't one of our top prospects.

Josh...u got a link for this

I'd guess that they will want the Red Sox to pay interest on the deferred money and thats the holdup. Pure speculation though.

Everything the LA times has said is that if they can't deal them by hte 20th, they will non tender him. Which also leads me to believe, you could pick him up for rather cheap. I'd even say a Jon Rauch for Washburn deal could happen...if the sox were willing to offer up Rauch.

I'd say its more of a snag. And that they will have to change the restructuring.

Figures....its such Bs that Arod can agree to the restructuring and be happy...yet it still can't fly. I understand though...the players association wants to rule the world and as long as George Steinbrenner and to a lesser extent the Boston Red Sox are still around its gonna happen.

What a joke...is this MLB or the Union that did this? I'd have to think something will happen.

I agree with Brando...screw taking on the Dodgers contract in Perez. Get Washburn and then sign Freddy Garcia when both are non tendered. Both are proven AL pitchers. Do Mota, Miller and Edwin Jackson or their other prospect for Nomar...this is if the Sox aren't willing to sign Nomar. The Sox free a ton of money and end up getting Mota, Williamson, Jackson and Miller for Magglio and they free up a ton of money. Then deal Jose Valentin for Carlos Guillen and after that you sign Washburn and Garcia...each for about 4-5 mill per. Deal Koch for Weathers. Check out a pen of Mota, Williamson, Weathers, Marte, Wunsch, Wright...ya thats NASTY and a rotation of Elo, Buehrle, Garcia, Washburn, Garland....ya thats nasty. Offensively its ugly, but Thomas, Lee and Konerko can still produce...although you have some voids still. Of course I do want to keep Nomar...but it could make things more difficult for the Sox to have 5 good starters, which I think is a big key to winning a series...which should be the ultimate goal.

No...he's mediocre in right, although Juan Gone in right would be a butcher. The big thing is Huff is a left handed hitter. Huff is also due to make about a mill next year...so it will cost a ton to get him via trade. This past season .311 AVG, .367 OBP, 34 HR, 107 RBI, .922 OPS and he is 26, although he'll be 27 on opening day. Maggs ops was .926...so very similar.

Remember, Aubrey Huff put up in my opinion, better numbers then Maggs last year. Not that I think the Sox are gonna get huff, although it would be nice.

That and the fact that its holding up the rest of baseball basically.