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I'm guessing its a sumo from Japan.

If we sign Rogers I'd do this trade. I'd hesitate, but I'd do it. I love Rollins. With him we get a legit shortstop and then have Jimenez at 2nd. Our infield would be young, fast and talented as would the top of our order. Jimmy has insane speed and will make the Sox so much more exciting at the top of the lineup. Oh ya, this deal would be one I'd do, although I'd love getting them to take someone like Malone or Stewart instead. Could this really be true? I see why the Sox would do it. They get a infielder of the future and present that gives them a legit leadoff hitter and then with Jimenez in the 2 hole the Sox also have a more legit 2 hitter. They also save 4 mill or so this year, meaning they could afford bringing in Kenny Rogers. I'd absolutely drool over this deal if we gave up someone other then Rauch, either way I like it though, because I think it makes us a way better team this year and with all the depth we have in the minors, we could lose a pitcher and be alright.

Exactly....why would Boros ever allow KR to sign a deal for $$ under 1-1.5 a year when he refused a deal in the 4+ range a few months ago....and I can't believe that Boros would include those bogus incentives relating to attendence that Lofton agreed to.... Rogers would make cents if JR would ok it since their only lefty option is Stewart and he is just not ready yet.....a solid vet with a good trackrecord for accumulating innings...and as we all know, innings is everything.... Boras is as good as it gets, imo. He's an unbelievably good agent. That being said, they made a big mistake this time around. Is anyone giong to tell me that Rogers is seriously going to get 4 million a year, especially when no one is getting that type of money this offseason. Him and Rogers should of never turned that deal down, and I think they will both admit that.

He could play there in a bind, but it wouldn't be pretty. I seem to remember him playing in CF a few times in 2001 when they were experimenting with Jose in the OF, putting Jose in RF. From what I recall, he didn't have the greatest arm to get it in from deep center. You need the OFer with the best throwing arm in CF, as the distance to the plate is longer. I don't think Maggs in CF is a really good idea. The best throwing arm is and should be in right, because they are the ones who have the best angle throwing home and also have a long throw to 3rd, something that is utilized very often. Think, they may not get the guy out at 3rd, but a good arm can stop guys from taking 3rd on a single. Leftfielders don't have to worry about this, they have an easy throw to both 2nd and 3rd. Centerfielders also have an easy throw to 2nd and 3rd, and typically there throw home isn't too bad, unless it is a deep shot, and in that case, your not going to get the guy anyway, if he is tagging up.

This would be an awesome pickup. I see Rogers as the #5 though. THe main reason is you don't want Wright going and then Colon because they are both more similar pitchers. If you have Garland and then Wright, you got two different pitchers. Colon and Buerhle is different. Buerhle and Jon is different, while Kenny and Colon is different. That way you never see the same looking pitcher in a row on the Sox. You'd also have 5 guys that threw 180 plus innings last season, which would be very impressive. They'd also have extreme depth if a starter went down with Rauch, Stewart, Loiza, and Heredia all there. If the Sox signed him I'd look for him to be able to make as much as 3 mill or as little as 1.25 or so depending on if he reaches performance incentives. I think they'll do something similar to Lofton's deal. One thing for sure, Rogers has made plenty of money, so I will assume he isn't going to go to Pittsburgh if he has similar offers from Boston or Chicago, so I'm thinking one of the Sox teams gets him. I'm hoping it will be the White Sox. Man would this be huge, especially cause it gives us another guy that is good against the Twinkies.

Well, I think all we'd have to do is eat part of the contract. Other then that he won't cost much anything, imo. I like the idea though. Of course I like Beltran more cause you get some left handed pop.

Glenallen Hill was my favorite player to watch at BP. That guy had cannons for arms and he hit the ball a long way and did it consistently during bp. That shot at wrigley was amazing. Farthest hit ball I ever saw was by Sammy Sosa during BP at Dodger stadium. He hit it like 500 plus feet and it went out of Dodger stadium.

Come on PK, convince Hudson to come to Chicago. Get Zito over here as well. Wait I forget, it was one of the two lefties that was a Sox fan or something.

Since when? I remember Maggs playing center and doing an adequate (at least) job. He has the speed and the arm for it. I can see no reason Maggs couldn't play CF in a pinch. He could play there in a bind, but it wouldn't be pretty.

I'm one of the Miles scepicts. Yes, he had great numbers last year, but I ask where were they all the previous years. Hummel put up some very good numbers down at AA himself and he didn't spend 8 years in the minors. In AAA, Tim had his struggles, but he still came on strong at the end of the season and then went on to have a very productive Arizona Fall League. Miles has yet to see AAA and he's already been in the minors for so long. If this kid was in fact so great, I'd think he would have already shown glimpses long before. Of course there are the rare ocassions when a player gets overlooked or the light turns on late, if thats the case and Miles puts up similar numbers in AAA, then he will have earned his shot, but until then, I will list Harris and Hummell both ahead of Miles. I also put Edwin Yan ahead of him, only because I think Yan is going to become a very good player, but thats me just going off a hunch. I love his speed and I think if he develops his bat, then he'll be good.

cant you pick up the wciu games on the other teams station??? Sometimes, but most of the time they don't do it that way, for some reason. I think in the long haul, I get like 130 Sox games, but don't quote me on that.

I don't like the DH. I think its good and bad, but all in all I like to see more strategy used, and I think you get that with the National League style of play.

....yeah, except I know if I send this message to some of my buds back in nyc, they are so dumb they may actually believe this article is legit.....lol.... here's to a great 2003 for our beloved sox!!! Welcome Aboard DaSoxRox. Glad to have ya here and I'm with ya on the Sox having an awesome season!!!

It looks more and more likely that it will be Colon starting on opening day cause the Sox have a great shot at landing Kenny Rogers, and Manuel wants to split up the lefties. Think of it this way. Rogers is a soft tosser with a ton of experience, I think he could teach Buerhle a bit more things. He also has good numbers against the Twins and teams that face Rogers and Colon will see soft tosser that mixes pitches and then Colon the guy with gas. Then if they also face Buerhle, you go to a lefty that also throws softer, but has different pitches.

I just can't get over the fact of how great this contract is. The owner can't pocket the money or anything, it has to be spent to improve the team. Secondly, its a Chicago Based company and is ran by a Sox fan.

SN Report: Sox Interested in Rogers By: Blake Baumgartner Dated: Febuary 5, 2003

Joey, glad to have ya back.

I'm so sick of seeing the so called vet Corie Blount out there. The guy makes so many freakin mistakes.

The main goal is definately developing players. Still, I agree with Hudler that winning is every bit as important. You need to teach the team concept throughout the minors and when players enjoy winning and get used to it, it can carry over. You don't want someone whose always on the losing end of things, because sometimes they really don't care. This doesn't happen with everyone, but does happen with some. I think the Sox are blessed with some pretty good minor league coaches, especially Backman.

Hassell was my favorite player all of last season. Now he just doesn't cut it. I don't want to dump him, but I'd put him in Hoiberg's role; limited minutes off the BENCH.

In the very last sentence were you referring to Guerrier or Munoz? Thanks for all your comments on those prospects. I liked Guerrier in spring last year. I was angered when they dealt him for Marte and Edwin Yan, but in retrospect it looks like a good move. Marte is filthy while Yan has amazing speed and could turn into a pretty good 2nd baseman, although he has a ways to go. I was referring to Munoz. I like Guerrier a lot. I still think he will be a solid big league pitcher and his numbers last year were very misleading. Would these numbers be acceptable?? The won-loss record could be better, but those numbers work for me. Games Started 23 W-L 7-8 ERA 3.09 IP 140 Hits 115 BB 38 K 116 For what it is worth, those are Guerrier's 2002 numbers minus 4 starts. He had four horrible starts, and yes, I understand that every start counts. However, I'd rather have a guy who pitches great 23 out of 27 times and horribly four times, than a starter who is just average all year long. I'd definately accept those numbers. Inning wise it isn't too bad, maybe a little less for Munoz. Guerrier was really good. He struggled last year in Pittsburgh, but I wouldn't count him out yet. I'd also like to see more K's, but the walk rate is very low.

God, for a second ya scared me toasty

Detroit hires him and are giving him a ton of money. I suspect he'll be the GM within a year. Until then he will have some say in personell moves. Good move by the Lions, but they were desperate cause they gave him way too much money. Now the Niners can afford to give Dennis Green the money, but I sure hope they just go with the cheap candidate, Blache.

Hopefully all is working now. Sorry it took me so long to see this.

This is there 2nd straight over time game, on the road, and on back to back days. They looked pretty good in the 2nd half. I still think Jamaal is a far superior player to Jay Williams, but I'm going to be more patient. I remember how bad Baron Davis was his first year. Then he worked his tail off in the offseason and come back a superior player and one of the best point guards in the league. I think Williams has the heart and talent and I do believe the work ethic is there. If he can make a big step this offseason and over the rest of the season, then I think the Bulls will be ready to compete next year. I also believe Eddie Robinson should become the starting 2 guard with Jamaal Crawford getting plenty of minutes there as well, ocassionally playing with Jay Will. It would be nice having a lineup with Rose, Jwill, and Crawford. All can handle the ball, create there own shot, and create shots for others. Scrap the triangle too. The Bulls should become a running team. Curry is getting way too big and looks like he needs to get more cut and in better shape. Tyson is looking good, but still needs to add muscle this offseason. Next year will be fun to watch, mainly because I think Jwill, Jamaal, and Tyson will all really improve. I'm holding out that we acquire Kwame for Eddy before the deadline.