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Brooks will also be traded. Presume for pretty much nothing, but who knows, maybe another 2nd?

Sir - Why don't you make a thread with that info and we can pin it seperately and you can just update it accordingly? I like the suggestion. Kind of the one-stop place to check for immediate updates vs. the main thread where all of the discussion can happen.

Young teams stink for a long time. I said it a long time ago, tanking won't be fun and it isn't easy, but I still believe they are collecting assets, but I'm less optimstic with Lauri not looking as good (not changing my long-term view on him yet and look forward to a larger sample size). I still actually kind of like Boylen too and have zero issue with his move with Wendell. I'm not going to rehash the whole blow it up arguments either, they went for a rebuild and it takes time. Young teams lose...period. There really aren't many exceptions to that in NBA history. Hell, look at OKC with Durant. They won 43 games in Durant's 1st two yeas (and that included a second year with Westbrook). I won't even talk about Philly. The Golden State Warriors (yes that dynasty with Curry) won 29, 26, 36, and 23 during Curry's 1st 4 seasons. I won't even get into Philly and the "process" and how long that took.

He’s a dodgers beat reporter. He’s reputable and on the radio regularly.

This. The reason they pay massive money for these TV deals is for exclusive rights in their prime market.

For the Sox sake, I really hope the Cubs deal goes down exactly like the Dodgers and hopefully than the Sox can capitalize with an exciting team which fans can watch (since still 3 years later...most of LA can not watch the Dodgers).

Another nice win. Hope Gabriel and Miller are okay and that Robinson and Jackson will be 100 percent by next week. Great defense and a nice ground and pound game with solid play by Mitch. Scoring that many points against a good d without most of your top wideouts was nice. Everything is about to get tougher and the Eagles are on a roll and obviously are playoff tested. One game at a time but no matter what happens this has been just an awesome season (which hopefully only gets more awesome).

I guess I’m thinking more of any mid market / medium sized payroll team. Heck if the Sox has Lester’s deal it would be another albatross

To play devils advocate what teams rebuild in recent years was significantly jump started by signing a major free agent to a long term deal? If these guys don’t sign, it isn’t the end of the world. I really think this team could benefit from more shorter term deals while other youth hopefully develops.

Oklahoma at least had an interesting second half but both games were total duds. Two best teams clearly advanced. Championship game should be a good one.

I would be okay with this as well. The salary is bad but he won’t cost a thing in terms of talent and he’s still an above average pitcher and a clubhouse leader. The Sox have a million number five starters...what they don’t gave us 1 and 2 starters unless Rodon turns it up a notch.

Yeah....I presume there was legitimate truth to what was reported. Very long time poster who I thank for sharing the info. Whether it ends up happening or not...I'm not going to doubt the legitimacy of the source.

Man...that was so long ago. You were definitely one of the first...in fact I don't think Soxtalk would ever have became what it was if it weren't for members coming here after you shut your site down (god its been so long I forget the name of your old site)?

Wait you are saying trade Rodon for all of those guys? I don't think if I'm trying to build a contending team and just spent a bunch of money on Machado I'm moving who I believe is our only front line pitcher (Rodon). That said, I understand the risks with him and the fact that his peripherals weren't as good as they should have been. His stuff is just really good (and thankfully it looked good after he game back from his injury). But no, I'm not making that trade with Rodon.

If the Sox made that trade, they are sending at least a high profile prospect or two the other way as well. Would have to be a 3 team deal or something where Dodgers clear payroll and get a front line pitcher and maybe Sox take payroll and get some of the prospects. I'd say 3 team with Kluber but I don't think the Indians would want the Sox as partners in that deal. Maybe with the Diamondbacks in a deal involving Greinke?

I think the Dodgers FO has probably told Boras to come to them when he's ready.

Locally Harper barely gets discussed. A few reporters have pushed the angle. To be honest, what the Dodgers need is front line pitching. They have a lot of depth, but they don't have the front line horses to win a series, imo. I don't believe Bellinger would be off the table, either. Albeit, they aren't just going to "hand him" over, even if you took on payroll. You'd still have to give up prospects. Bellinger had a sophmore slump but he's a very capable defender (OF / 1B). I am surprised Dodgers haven't been in on Kluber.

Yes. And you know there will be other teams looking to shred payroll at times (whether Yankees and/or Red Sox).

Picking up some of the Dodgers pieces and facilitating salary moves wouldn't necessarily be the end of the world, imo. I still think it is unlikely the Sox sign either of these guys. They are clearly doing the best they can, but it is an uphill battle when you are competing with the Yankees and Dodgers. I won't necessarily make the same statement with the Phillies, other then they are a better positioned team to win sooner (vs. Sox). And if the Sox don't win on Machado and Harper and instead get creative and absorb salary to obtain good prospects and/or other pieces (say get a Bellinger to go with a Kemp or something)...than I think that could actually end up better (from a pure baseball perspective).

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Wow - Bobby Portis out 2 to 4 weeks.

I agree. I'd say more Blake Griffin but either way, I'd prefer Barret.

Welcome aboard!!!

Lavine out 2-4 weeks and given the tank, etc, I'll bet he'll be closer to the 4 week mark. Its a bummer because I am 100% okay with this franchise winning games, as long as it is driven by strong play and growth shown out of Dunn, Lavine, Laurie, WCJ. I don't believe those guys have played even 1 game together yet and even if you remove WCJ, you are talking about, I believe less than 10 regular season games total.

Technically, the Bulls offense was already tragically bad, but Boylan has been misquoted. He basically wants to get back to basics of half court basketball, etc, before starting to push the tempo and other aspects. The guy is fundamentally different than Hoiberg and with that, the transition into the role mid-season is different than a lot of other "interim" transitions. Either way, none of it will matter...this team is going to struggle to win many games. Injuries have certainly had a material impact on this, but it also has a lot to do with young teams and how hard it is to turn around a culture when you have young clubs. Its why I actually believe in what Boylan is preaching. Historically speaking, young teams lose (and lose a lot of games) and that culture can quickly become toxic...losing habits spread like wildfire and it just gets ugly. Lakers had those issues a year ago, they had tons of locker room issues prior to Lebron coming in.