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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 10:33 AM) To listen to it here, apparently the Bulls locker room was Iraq, and it was Thibs holding the Kurds, Shia, and Sunni's together Well I think Gar created that culture when he decided to tell the players last year that they didn't need to follow Thibs and it only got worse this year. It absolutely was bad. But it was there roster and they need to be held accountable for it (as do the players). But when you had a roster of guys who for years were known as great team players, etc, well, than it is hard to ignore some of the changes that happened. I've said numerous times I am an avid Thibs supporter though.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 10:26 AM) Gasol is one of the guys that stands out to me as being done with this season. There was a sequence last night where he shot a three from the top of the key, missed it short, and even though he didn't chase for the offensive rebound, he was still the last guy down the floor. When he finally got down the floor, the ball came to his guy, who took a 20 foot jumper from the wing, and Gasol didn't even bother to get his hands up on. I am done with the guy. Sure he can put up numbers, but he isn't helping this team at all right now. Well, I'd argue if he was done for the season, given his knee, he wouldn't be playing. I think Pau is just one of those guys that is so incredibly skilled (and he truly is an all time great big) that he can get away with not putting in the longer practice habits and taking more of the "Spurs" approach. Unfortunately, the rest of the team wasn't in that position and when you don't have other strong leaders, people look up to Pau who came in and started questioning how things were done. Pau is a real pro, so I'm not here saying negatives, but he also was late in his career and he just goes about things different and I think others followed suit from it. Bigger issue seems to be Jimmy Buckets. Of course that might just be what the Bulls front office wants us to believe as they are starting there campaign to get the fan base behind moving him. Me, I love Jimmy for what he does on the court and I think he needs people who hold him accountable and I think that was lost the day the Bulls stripped Thibs and than eventually put in Hoiberg. Hoiberg wasn't willing to be the sheriff and backed down early and lost the respect of countless people. I also can buy into Jimmy's head expanding, but I also argue he plays hard, etc. He does need a wake up call though and I think he's a guy who absolutely can win a championship but he's got to buy-in, part of that is on the player, but part of that is also on the coach. It isn't like this was a team of misfits or cancers that Hoiberg was handed. It was a team with guys who all have relatively good reputations within the league and he failed miserably at getting them to buy-in and the front office failed miserably in identifying that (and if it was the players fault) making changes to the roster to ensure / put the coach in a position where he could succeed.

Every game is a must win now though and anything can happen. A loss and we are pretty much doomed.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 09:52 AM) If I were the Bulls front office I would play on the fact that the Lakers are getting kind of desperate to get some names on the floor and that Derrick likes being in LA. Maybe steal Russell from them since Scott seems dead set on gluing him to the bench I think they get Thibs and I think it would be Butler they target. I wonder if you could get Russel plus their top pick and maybe a future pick. No idea whether either side would make that deal. Lots of hypotheticals.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 09:48 AM) *cough*lakers*cough* They probably have better odds at signing someone via FA. I think more likely destinations are smaller market teams who have to overpay via FA.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 09:46 AM) I'm just wondering if, given his contract, you could get a first round pick for him. Maybe if you took back a longer contract perhaps? With the cap space you wouldn't have to match the guy coming back if both teams had money available. Teams in basketball purgatory would take a shot on Drose. They would look at his improvement as the season progresses, being another year removed from the injury, etc, not to mention potential for a clean slate as reasons why they make the deal. They know they can't get anyone with the draw of Rose via FA so why not take a chance on a trade. Would the Knicks or Lakers do it, no, but if you are the Kings or some other franchise in a smaller market lacking enough stars to win, I see a lot of reasons why you take the chance on Rose, see if he takes off and you'd have his bird rights to offer more in FA (thus increasing odds you can resign him in the future if he continues to ascend). Plus, all reports are people like playing with Rose. We don't here the same about Butler, but I've never heard anyone say a bad thing about Rose as a teammate (and he's never once said a bad thing about his teammates).

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 09:39 AM) I think the Bulls could trade Rose pretty easily. It depends on what they would get back. The cap is going up significantly. You wouldn't get a superstar return for him. But if they don't plan on maxing him, why not take what you can get? I fully agree with you. Guys a lot worse than him are going to get paid.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 08:44 AM) Wasn't firing Thibs supposed to fix the chemistry? Oops. Chemistry is just something people point to when people win. Teams that loved each other have sucked, teams that hated each other have been great, and vice versa. But if basketball players don't like playing with each other, and players can hate a guy but like playing on his team, team performance is going to take a hit. I think there are a lot more guys who would have liked to play with Michael Jordan than who wanted to hang out with him after a game. A beat guy noticed this when they were 10 over .500. This core quit. Many mentioned when the Bulls quit against Cleveland in the playoffs. Why was that a coaching issue and not a player or front office issue? The problems with this team were misdiagnosed by those in postion to attempt to fix them. Moving forward, IMO, someone else should be making the diagnosis. Benching Noah before the season start was probably something Hoiberg does differently. Amazing how far this team fell when Noah got hurt (and no, Noah wasn't some great player anymore, but you have to believe to some extent, he was a guy that others followed and listened to). I think Gasol absolutely has to go. Not because of his play, just because he's a squeaky wheel when it comes to practice, etc. He's a vet who will play through injuries, etc, but he isn't a tough practicer and doesn't exhitibt the habits you want your young players to look up to when the game isn't going on. If you put him on a team with another strong leader (kobe, etc), than it works well, in fact, he is the perfect counter to say a Kobe, but on this Bulls team, with no leader, ugly. This whole roster was ugly and Hoiberg was supposed to be the people coach and holy hell did things go wrong.

Rose is absolutely moveable at this point. He's played pretty good basketball for a while now. Cap is going up.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 07:55 AM) If the guys don't like playing with each other, I see no reason not to make some major changes. Not blow it up Sixers style and be horrible for years, but I would hope the Reinsdorfs would be willing to bring someone in to make changes who isn't attached to any of these players. Something big is going to have to happen for the Bulls to really have a championship quality roster. I'm trading for Anthony Davis (deal Buckets plus for him and hope New Orelans feels the heat to move him). Or whatever you need to. Bulls need to make a shakeup and I agree with you it would be best served with new blood and a new culture. Sad how fast and far the franchise has fallen.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 07:36 AM) This roster should have been WAY better than it was. At some point, the players should answer for this season. Roster deserves blame but the front office imploded too. Everything is a mess and with the players imploding I have a hard time giving Hoiberg a pass either. Managing personalities and players was supposed to be his strong suit and he's failed miserably. It will never happen, but in a vaccum, everyone should be out. My ideal would be Paxson stays, hires a new GM, and they bring in a new coach, etc. It won't happen, I think all that goes is Gar, but I do think Hoiberg has a short leash. Maybe Hoiberg saves us and goes back to college.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 05:31 AM) If you mean resigning Gasol for 20 million a year, then sure. No way. I don't see it.

QUOTE (Tony @ Mar 25, 2016 -> 02:31 PM) USAToday just threw out an interesting name for GT....Fred Hoiberg. Pretty please...pretty pretty pretty please

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Mar 25, 2016 -> 11:44 AM) I read an article about supposed leaks about the season finale where we will see Negan swing the bat at someone's head but we'll see it from the victim's point of view. And then we won't find out who was killed until the first episode of season 7. I don't know if I believe it, but you never know. I absolutely believe it. Smart.

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Mar 25, 2016 -> 10:50 AM) I remember a few being dismissed. Can't believe 10 in total were dismissed. The show is really solid. Really enjoyed it. Sneak Peek Trailer from the Walking Dead Season finale (SPOILERS): https://youtu.be/L2IftZbXmxo Is the next episode the finale? I thought there was one more until the finale.

QUOTE (Tony @ Mar 25, 2016 -> 09:44 AM) And the amazing thing is JR's other team is known across the sports world for having one of the best medical staffs, and is always #1 in terms of players not missing time on the DL. Yeah, so weird.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 25, 2016 -> 09:27 AM) But his marital issues are a known commodity. No one cares about it anymore. I should point out, I'm not a fan of either of them, but I always had an opinion that while I disagreed with Ted, I at least could commend him for sticking to his core principles, etc. This would be a big game changer in that arena. What's next, Bernie is having an affair with Melania Trump?

I should point out, I had a little political type crush on Amanda Carpenter. My wife is always like, oh, I see why you have CNN on right now, haha.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/24133...on-Knee-Surgery Are you kidding me. Shut him down, this team blows. It is beyond doomed anyway. Let Butler rest or get his knee scoped if that is what is needed. How can a medical staff be so consistently wrong as this staff seems to be. Living in a market with two major organizations, I've never seen this type of issues with say the Lakers or Clippers.

Interesting how quickly people figured out who three of them are and given who the three are, I suppose it could be more valid or it could be a bunch of nonsense. I presume Donald would have no reason to drive something like this, given he's had his own marital issues. Given the high stature Ted holds himself to, this would be a pretty big blow to his "character" if true.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 25, 2016 -> 06:52 AM) That final game against the Cavs, they definitely quit. Other than that, I don't see it Yeah, what you two say. This year, I'd agree that at least parts quit or there is a ton of "I". Interestingly enough, I feel as if Rose isn't getting enough credit for how efficient he's been offensively (at least as a scorer). His passing still needs to improve, but thus far, I'd actually call this a pretty productive season out of Rose (especially given where it started) and I'd have to feel like Rose would be feeling pretty good in the grand scheme of things (on a personal level). Also, if Bulls go another direction, I'd also argue Rose is absolutely moveable (especially given the increase in the cap) if the front office determined they wanted to move another direction.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Mar 24, 2016 -> 03:40 PM) Ya its a depressing time for a large sect of republicans. I also consider myself very socially liberal but we wont have a socially liberal republican candidate anytime soon because we can see what the GOP establishment does when they dont agree with a candidate. Unless there is some overhaul in campaign finance its likely to remain like this. Especially not when the south and heavy religious states tend to drive the early primaries and thus the early momentum. I realize my social liberal approach will probably not be the republican parties approach for another 10 or 15 years (as I have to think anyone that is young and eventually converts over to the republican party as they age would have similarly more liberal positions on social issues), but it really is time for a third party. It wasn't that long ago that I felt most of my values relatively aligned with the republican party (and than Bush Jr decided he wanted to go spend crazy).

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Mar 24, 2016 -> 03:40 PM) Ya its a depressing time for a large sect of republicans. I also consider myself very socially liberal but we wont have a socially liberal republican candidate anytime soon because we can see what the GOP establishment does when they dont agree with a candidate. Unless there is some overhaul in campaign finance its likely to remain like this. Biggest thing that needs to be fixed in the entire system is campaign finance reform.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Mar 24, 2016 -> 03:35 PM) A part of me is very interested to see how ugly a Hillary vs Trump election would get. But then when you realize one of them is/will end up being the president its a lot less fun. Its pretty frustrating that these are the front runners to be president and that we dont have a better option. Honestly, a good third party candidate could legitimately win the white house in a general election (I think).

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Mar 24, 2016 -> 03:25 PM) Also, Ted Cruz trying to be a martyr is cute. It was all fun and games when his super pac was posting a nude picture of Trumps wife. Stupid too...I can't stand Cruz either. Evidently I'm not a republican and given the most recent RAND poll, its becoming more evident that my values no longer are consistent with the party. That parties priorities are not fiscal policy anymore, they are backwards ass social issues and religious issues. Just as the democrats pander to certain demographics (unions, etc) the republicans have gone bat s*** pandering to other demographics (religious right). Here I am who, mr millenial, socially liberal, actually open to things like health care, etc (and no I'm not anti religion, but I don't see how gay marriages hurt anyone and how anyone could lose sleep because they had to "marry a gay" or "bake a cake for a gay"), but who is fiscally conservative. If one thing can come out of this process, maybe we'll truly end with a third party, which can at least get some candidates who fit into my group, otherwise I'm going to have a hard time voting and end up in a fully independent trench never getting any legislation that I think is meaningful done and we'll spend the next 30 years going through era's with obamacare type policies coming in and than era's where everything done during that wave is repealed only to go back in full swing. Hello...can people get over the high hump and bring back some common decency and work together on goals that overall align with this country that the majority of the people vote for, vs. making everything and anything partisan? Please...pretty please? I digress though, a vote for Trump is a vote for everything that would make America awful. Its a vote for going back to the "good ole days" and I say that as sarcastically as possible.