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QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 01:16 PM) No theyre not Spurs Warriors Clippers OKC Cleveland Miami I just want to point out that outside of the Warriors, they have beaten all those teams on that list. The Bulls also have the highest winning percentage in the eastern conference vs. teams above .500 and the 2nd most wins vs. teams above .500 in the NBA (tied with the Spurs...whose winning percentage is significantly higher). Bulls winning percentage vs. .500 or better teams is 3rd in the NBA.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 12:16 PM) Classic oxymoron definition. The east f***ing sucks. And even assuming Rose never gets hurt, they lose to the Heat in '12, '13 and '14 and lose to the Cavs last year as well. Yes, but following your logic, LEbron would have won the past 5 championships or so. So unless you had Lebron, you would be the failure. Now the Warriors are here so they will win the next 5.

QUOTE (ozzfest @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 09:39 AM) Front office rankings in Chicago (in terms of which teams have the best chance to win it all). Which is how a front office should be judged. 1) Blackhawks 2) Cubs 3) Bears 4) White Sox 5) Bulls I don't even know how to analyze that list. But if I go back to Paxson's era I'd say it is Hawks and Bulls and than no one else is even close. Bears are probably 3rd (again, spanning Paxson's run...Cubs would probably rank last and Sox would rank 4th).

Welp...in the market for a car (unexpectedly). Our 2005 Pilot got rear ended and now damage has totaled the vehicle out (thankfully everyone was okay). Rec actually happened about a month ago but insurance has been a drag as other drive has been lying (thankfully police report called her out for such). Either way, was curious to see if anyone here happens to have a Sonata Hybrid (I've done the research, but curious in case anyone here happens to own one of the Hybrids). We are leaning towards getting the 2016 hybrid limited (was amazed at the bargains they got on those things). I actually was figuring I'd buy the all new pilot or highlander (our other vehicle is the previous generation Hybrid) but after seeing the cost of the Sonota decided we'd go a bit more economical and fuel efficient for our 2nd driver (knowing we have the bigger car for weekends / kid hauling).

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 08:39 AM) Kawhi is leading the Spurs to championships. Yet he ays in the same league as the Bulls were LeBron and Curry are god. I wonder how he did it. Oh wait, his FO goes out and gets FAs and they make the necessary trades. Miami 6 years ago was s***. Had no assets other than Wade. Yet they aggressively went after guys and even after they got the big three, they went after guys like Ray Allen. So I ask again, why does the excuse train get to keep rolling when every other exec hasnt. What excuse train? Outside of the Blackhawks, no other organization in Chicago has been even close to as successful as Paxson has been while running the Bulls. Yes, the White Sox got a ring and the Bears sniffed a superbowl but the Bulls have consistently been playoff contenders and were at one point legit title contenders and they have consistently found new assets while going through this extensive run. Have they failed to win the title and lure the biggest fish, yes, but I still objectively look at things and say they have been one of the best front offices in basketball. The best, no, but close to, and for that, I give them credit and give them the benefit of the doubt. It isn't easy to win a title and the fact that these guys hasn't shouldn't mean you can them and go another direction. They have been ripped consistently for one thing...the Thibs fiasco and deservingly so. Other than that, I don't see any reason to put them on blast.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 08:30 AM) Look at what Minn got for Love. Bulls couldn't compete with that. If Love became a Bull, Butler would be a Twolve and the Bulls would be worse off.

Coops track record speaks for himself. He is that way with the players and it is why it works so well and he's fully entitled to his opinion of the fans. And from my conversations with Coop, I always appreciated the fact that he was a straight shooter. I also think he's very fan friendly (in the sense that he'll talk to fans a ton during spring training and throw balls to kids, etc).

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 11:37 AM) There is an embassy 2 blocks away. I have passport pictures and have printed out computer typed application. I'm sure it is pretty easy. Is it for vacation or work?

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 11:08 AM) Need to get Visa at Chinese Embassy this week. Anyone been to do the same? Any tips? I just mailed mine and didn't really have any issues. From what I remember (its been a few years), the process was way faster than I expected (part of that might have been they had ramped up their department in anticipation of the world fair...which was when I got my work visa to go there).

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 11:02 AM) After reading that I still say the same thing: you guys are crazy if you really expect the Bulls or ANY sports franchise to compete for TITLES, which is what you two are b****ing about, when your star players gets hurt for basically 4 seasons in a row. You're complaining that the Bulls didn't so SOMETHING when they've done quite a lot. Some of the moves worked out, some of them didn't. You can't expect GM's to be perfect. The behind the scene stuff, fighting with VDN, the way they let Thibs go, etc. has been embarassing. But from a strict basketball perspective, I think they've done a pretty fantastic job making this team a playoff mainstay and an ECF contender on an annual basis given that 20% of their starting 5 can't be counted on to play consistently and hasn't for about 5 years now. I agree with all of this (and really can't argue the points made by the others, but go back to the above from you Jenks). You need to think realistically. I absolutely am sickened by how things went down with Thibbs (and that is probably a knock on both Tom and the Bulls FO for their unwillingness to work together) but from a pure basketball perspetcive, the Bulls front office is one of the best in basketball, imo.

Since Christmas, Derrick Rose is averaging 18.5 PPG on 47.8% shooting and .941 FT%. One issue is his turnovers and assist numbers are trending the opposite direction.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 09:50 AM) Offer him 4 years with mutual 5th year option. $10.5M $20.5M $21.5M $22.5M Option year $23.5M or $5M buyout if player exercises option but club declines. Why would he get less in AAV than Upton? If I were him, I'd expecting just as much. This is a significant reduction from what Upton got. I think for 4 yrs 90-100M you have a shot at getting him.

How good is Pau playing right now. I realize he is expiring, but if the Bulls are going to look to retool, I'd have to think their'd be a contender out there who would give up something pretty solid for Pau.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 02:16 PM) And I am totally bummed about Noah. Obviously I respect Jordan more than anything, but I think Jo is my all time favorite Bull. I love Jo. His loss sucks, but it also creates new opportunity for Taj & Portis. I hope they do well with that and I wish Jo the best in his speedy recovery. I don't know whether his time in Chicago is done or not, in fact, who knows, the injury might mean its more likely he is back in Chicago a year from now. All I know is one thing...I don't know that I was ever so annoyed at a draft pick than when the Bulls took Jo and years later I look back and I think about how I love Jo. I respect how he went about his business on the court and how he was a constant pro (yes he had his issues when he was young, but he was never afraid to learn from his mistakes). Guy always left it all out on the court and off the court he's done a ton of good for the community, etc. Love you Jo!!! After all, my son's middle name is Noah for a reason

Watched the first episode of Man in the HIgh castle (or whatever it is called). Holy hell, first episode has me hooked. So well done how they did it too.

So I'm just catching up to this thread, but given the Upton signing (money & years), does anyone realistically think the Sox are going to offer 20+M for Cespedes and does anyone actually think the market doesn't indicate he'll get that?

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 15, 2016 -> 09:04 AM) Noah, Gasol, Snell, and a pick for Cousins? I don't know if we have the assets to get him. FWIW they do have Belinelli/Gay and other trade chips. Anyway, let me have my fantasy: Rose (34)/Brooks (8)/Moore (5)/Hinrich (1) Butler (36)/Hinrich (8)/Moore (4) McDermott (28)/Mirotic (18)/Butler (2) Gibson (30)/Mirotic (10)/Portis (8) Cousins (36)/Portis (12) Butler (38) Cousins (36) Rose (34) Gibson (30) Mirotic (28) McDermott (28) Portis (20) Hinrich (9) Moore (9) Brooks (8) Not sure why Kings do that (or if it works) unless they just want to dump Cousin and get cap space. I'd presume Niko, Snell, Taj, their pick back would be a starting point (presume they'd want Doug).

I realize a lot of this sentiment is already burried in the Alexei signs thread, but you know what, Alexei deserves his own thank you thread. He has been a very good shortstop and was a stellar signing for this club (averaging just shy of 3 WAR per year over an 8 year career). I always felt he gave it his all and will always appreciate the amazing plays the guy could make defensively. When I think of Alexei, I think of Hawk going "Alexeiii" in excitement after all of the amazing plays the dude made at short. I hope he can extend his career in San Diego and wish him all the best!!!

I can get from the Pacific Ocean to the Atlantic Ocean no problem. Where in the Atlantic I'd end up, who the hell knows, but I could definitely make it there

Butler is a star. Honestly...I'm starting to wonder if the real plan shouldn't be find a way to get another star around Jimmy (move whomever you need to and go all out again for max players).

2-0 vs the Spartans. Nice surprise. I'll take that!!!

I've said it for a while now, but if Mirotic has value, they better capitalize it. He is awful.

Alexei playing elsewhere is one of those things that won't hit me, until it truly happens. I just suspect that once he reaches an agreement with Pads, he's going to call Sox up and see what they'll do. If he is to go elsewhere, I'm very grateful for the 8 years he gave to the Sox and will always cheer for him.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 09:00 AM) I dont see why Cespedes would take a 1-2 year deal with the Mets over a 4 year deal with the Sox. That makes absolutely no sense. Well if Sox are offering like 4 75 and Mets are offering 1 / 25, I could see why. None of us know enough of about what is actually happening. All we can do is speculate.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 08:54 AM) It won't. If he signed a 1 year deal with Mets, they'd just attach the QO next year complicating his market even more. Unless he has a bad year, the draft pick compensation shouldn't really complicate Cespedes market. He is good enough that you don't worry about the pick. It is when you get to those guys who are in the 10-15M annual range where I think people think awful hard about going long-term and losing the pick. A guy like Cespedes, who I presume still commands somewhere around 18-20M per year and I really see no reason why he couldn't get that over 4 to 5 years, shouldn't be impacted by the pick. I am really curious what the real numbers around Cespedes are. If he really isn't getting a LT offer, why not offer a 4 year deal @ 80M with a 2 year opt out. Give him the flexibility that he could go short with the benefit of knowing he has a guaranteed longer term deal.