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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 09:10 AM) Film reportedly had 45 cut minutes. I think it definitely needed another 10, but it was still good. Sure we'll see the extended edition in 5 years. @LDF, episode 8 comes out in spring 2017. They're filming now. The first spin off movie comes out next Winter, Rogue One. Then in 2018 another spinoff, Young Han Solo. Then in 2019, episode 9. Then in 2020, a Boba Fett spinoff. Be prepared for Star Wars overload. No...just more Star Wars awesomeness (if these are well done).

With news of Gordon's market picking up (or more the fact that his lack of suitors is driving him to make a decision sooner vs. later). Separate thread probably makes sense. Thanks Kyle for pulling this together!

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 07:03 AM) Movie was fantastic. My one big complaint was that it didn't set up the big picture stuff very well. Can anyone explain the state of the galaxy post Battle of Endor? I thought there was an implication that the Emperor's death was the end of the empire or at least would scatter the remaining forces in a way that would make the New Republic the dominant faction. But here, it looks like Snoke just stepped in and its practically the status quo including easily building a new super duper death star. There's a Senate operating but it doesn't do anything. The rebels are stilll the rebels, hiding, and their entire "fleet" is like 20 XWings? I wonder if at some point they won't have a separate star wars movie to cover the gaps. I figure Disney is going to figure out ways to explain the rest of the universe and significant gaps. Monetize as much as possible (and as a Disney shareholder and a Starwars fan...I'm all for it).

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 04:29 PM) This was Daisy Ridley's first film. I saw where she did some stuff in the UK, but she is badass. All I can say. Really dug her character and how she played it.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 03:30 PM) I was surprised by how much comedy was in it. Also, BB8 was way more fun/likeable then I expected, I thought there was a small chance it would be Jar Jar Binks'd, but it was done really well. The best part in my mind, is this set up very nicely for the next movies (and in and of itself it was badass too). Was the perfect re-entry into Star Wars and it totally felt like the original trilogy which is a true compliment. Chewy and Hans had great moments too and I was glad when Hans was killed off because I think to really make it great, they have to move on from some of the main old characters. That said, Harrison is the best actor of the old characters by far.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 03:27 PM) While I was slightly disappointed in Kylo Ren I think it was more in the fact that they didn't really go into why he left for the dark side. I'm guessing that gets developed in the next movie or two and I'm really excited for that. Snoke just didn't seem that intimidating and the CGI for him was too much like LOTR. I think they are going to do a lot in terms of Kylo and presumably more info in terms of Rey as well and her development. Really just such an awesome movie.

I really dig Rey. She stole the show in my opinion. No idea who she was as an actress, but did a great job on screen. I also though Han's son was a good evil character and am curious to see how he expands on the evil in the next set. I had stayed away from absolutely everything in relation to this movie (so much so that I didn't even know the actual story line) and it made it so damn enjoyable.

It was f***ing awesome.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 03:32 PM) It seems like every year, he gets closer and closer to the Sox. He is 100% the Sox "go-to" guy. Didn't he originally cover the Sox many moons ago? I always know that when Nightengale speaks about the Sox, I listen.

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 02:32 PM) Trade or FA? Don't answer 'yes'. Yes or No.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 02:28 PM) Even with that in mind, he posted a .342 wOBA and a +4 WAR. Unless something catastrophic happens, he should post something close to 3 WAR. Oh I agree. He's a good player and one of the best 3B in the game. This was a huge upgrade at a position we haven't been able to update since Crede.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 02:16 PM) Frazier's pretty bad second half has me concerned, but he did the same thing in 2014 and still had a good first half in 2015. I just want a guy who can hit 30 home runs and get on at a .330 clip at third. I think more likely than not, Frazier can deliver that for the next two years. His career OBP is under .330 and last year it was .309. It is the one thing I don't like about Frazier (all of the other pluses outweigh this negative though).

Tomorrow AM @ 9...wohooo.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 10:28 AM) He said after the game to the ESPN crew that he STILL has double vision, but that he's a "professional" so he can deal with it. I, too, think it's bulls***. Unless it's a very, very minor issue (like haloing or something), he'd see a specialist if it didn't go away after 3 months. My coworker has been dealing with double vision for about 4 months. One of the Angels players had a similar issue this past season. They usually give it anywhere from a few weeks to 6+ months before they do anything else (as long as they have validated it isn't something serious). Unfortunately it is something that absolutely lingers. Do people think he'd just magically be worse this year vs. the prior year? Come on, that makes zero sense.

It's totally psychological...but was digging Rose since he cleaned his due and ditched the mask. Played super aggressive last night as well. Loved the effort out of him and he missed some shots in the paint that should come with time. This is the stretch where I'd hope we would see Rose take steps forward. Billups was really defending Rose last night talking about how he couldn't imagine playing with double / blurred vision.

No need to feel bad. They have tons of assets. That said, I'm surprised they have been so patient. Having the assets and cash usually minimizes your need to be patient. Plus, when you have a good club, you can really justify stretching to ensure you have as great of a probability as possible to hitting it. Still, I can't fall them for what they are doing and I expect them to be aggressive. My presumption is they are going to try and get the Puig stuff to settle and than move him.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 04:45 PM) Angels themselves said they're out. They said "probably". With Moreno's track record, this could just as much be a negotiating ploy. They were never "in" on Hamilton until they thought they were getting a value and than boom. This could just as much be a negotiation ploy than anything else. Either way, if they think these are the solutions than they are delusional.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 04:25 PM) One guy I wouldn't mind them looking at because he would be minimum and worked well with Coop is Edwin Jackson. I could get behind Jackson. I also think he'd profile nicely as a reliever (so he could in essence be a swing guy).

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 04:17 PM) The Sox are also going to need a pitcher or 2. Teams usually don't make it through entire,seasons with 5 or 6 starters. Agreed. I think they view Turner as one option from a depth perspective, but I do think they are going to add an arm and an outfielder. I expect the arm will be a solid player where as the outfielder will be a more high profile move.

Umm....these are two guys who are total bums. They invested nothing in them. This is purely depth moves. Why would these moves (1.5M for Nava and whatever small amount for Gentry and his .396 OPS for 2015) preclude a club from going after a major free agent.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 03:14 PM) Definitely a bigger deal to acquire Jose Fernandez imo. I wouldn't even know where to begin where we land Puig, Dodgers get Fernandez, and Miami gets prospects. Dodgers get: SP Jose Fernandez White Sox get: RF Yaseil Puig Marlins get: SP Julio Urias SP Jose De Leon OF Trayce Thompson SP Tyler Danish OF Avisail Garcia I'm just spit balling here. So you are saying the White Sox get Puig for Danish and Garcia. That would be highway robbery. Only way the Sox are getting Puig is if they give up a front line starter or give up at least one of Fullmer/Anderson + others as part of a 3 way deal which nets the Dodgers their front line starter.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 03:08 PM) I should know better than to read these threads, nothing but unfounded negativity. I am absolutely fired up about this trade and there is more on the horizon. The Sox are gonna be nasty this season. As an FYI, the poll (seperate thread) indicates that what you are seeing are the vast minority. Almost all of the posts are overwhelmingly positive. In fact, the poll has 50+ on board and just 5 nay's.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 03:09 PM) It's truly amazing to me how anyone could be down about this trade. Most who don't like it believe Trayce will turn into a superstar or that Frazier will turn into Josh Fields. If you look at the poll results, it is overwhelming in favor of the deal. 50+ in favor vs. 5 on the nay side.

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 03:02 PM) Aside from a luxury OF pick-up (Cespedes, Gordon, Upton), I think CWS needs to brings Alexei back, something like 3 years 15 M (still a useful backup in future), he wants to reitre on the South Side and still offers a plus glove and range with veteran leadership and a decent bat at best, hopefully when he returns from Cuba he returns in 2014 form and with an offer from CWS, Saladino offers more as utility... On a side note, CWS really is depleting the system to compete now, I'd say CWS's only top 100 prospects now are Anderson (playoff addition in '16/starter in '17) and Fulmer (Middle rotation starter/closer potential), I'm fine with this though as the high draft pick and 3 in the top 50 will help replenish a competing team A depth chart of: C: Navarro, Avila 1B: Abreu, LaRoche 2B: Lawrie 3B:Frazier SS: Alexei, Saladino OF: Eaton, Cabrera, Cespedes, Garcia, Shuck Rotation: Sale, Quintana, Rodon, Johnson, Danks 'Pen: Robertson, Duke, Jones, Jennings, Putnam, Webb, Petricka, Kahnle Looks WS ready to me Alexei isn't getting more than a 1 year deal or a 1 year deal with an option / buyout for year 2.

QUOTE (South Sider @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 02:25 PM) Frank said he'd pay him 4/100. I'm sitting there thinking Frank... that's not enough... 4/100 gets a deal done with any of the remaining outfielders, imo. The per year on that is enough to entice any of them to sign, imo. I think the more likely deal is a longer deal with an out at year 3 or 4.