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QUOTE (mr_genius @ Aug 15, 2011 -> 08:38 PM) I was just thinking, GW Bush looks like a really good president when you compare him to Obama. be honest, did any of you think Obama would be this incompetent? I thought he would probably suck, but i had no idea it would reach these historic levels. In a word, absolutely.

HANG 'EM. HIGH. !!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 15, 2011 -> 12:42 PM) I believe the reason "moderate" is quoted the way it is, is Kaps belief that he doesn't really stand on anything. He changes as politically prudent, so he is always in the middle-ish. Which is my whole problem with the entire GOP field. "Moderate" means non-commital. Huntsman is the same way, IMO.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 15, 2011 -> 08:49 AM) You're right. Because most of the reason Texas struggled for the last decade compared to the rest of the country was that it had grandfathered in significant, strong regulations of its mortgage market, which slowed growth for much of the decade but protected it somewhat from the bust. So over the period of a decade Texas wound up behind the national GDP trend, but for the last 2 years it was above it. Regulations of the sort that require actual proof of income and require loan operators to actually verify income. Things that if we tried to impose them at the national level would have you guys crying out "Regulation...the horror! Socialism!" Because that's the fun game now, to say that people aren't investing because of the horror of unnamed regulations. Absolute, pure bulls***.

That's actually almost true.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 14, 2011 -> 08:41 PM) This might be the most misleading chart I have ever seen you post on here. And that's saying something.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 14, 2011 -> 07:18 PM) LOL. What the hell happened to you? You must have multiple personality disorder. One day Perry's the biggest slimeball around. The next he can do no wrong. I still don't like him. Yet, what you're throwing out there is pure BS, BS. Like I said, if this is all you got, you're looking at the next president. Solar energy?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 14, 2011 -> 07:05 PM) Other than praying, what solutions has he proposed to address energy concerns in Texas? Why does he refuse to incorporate solar into the mix? Last I heard, it's quite sunny in Texas. And how can you support someone that hinted at secession? That's about as un-American as you can get. Get off your sunshine s***. If it worked efficiently and cheaply, we all would have it. In case you hadn't heard, there's this thing called natural gas, but I know, I know, global warming, crack and all that s***.

Active rig doesn't mean that they're extracting... they may drill and then cap it because they can't transport it.

Wow, the grass is green and the sky is blue. What a scoop by the underwear gnomes.

What you actually do is WOO (drill baby drill!!)... long enough to get ourselves in a different position for other sources of energy besides oil. But why use that logic when all you folks just want to make sure we continue to depend on foreign oil and pay through the nose for it?

If the only thing that is going to "save the economy" is more efficiency from the energy sector, let's all just die right now and get it over with.

To TRU, happy birthday from the old bastard. To Go, make sure you eat your cake from the left side first. Happy birthday!

How about Barack Obama's Crony Capitalism Problem? If this is the best you've got, then Rick Perry is the next president.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 14, 2011 -> 12:08 AM) And if the stimulus had actually done what it was supposed to do, you know spur a recovery... We wouldn't be at 9% unemployment with a few trillion down the toilet. Obligatory response for most Dems: Look at those graphs in the other thread. Unemployment would be 65%, and GDP would have been -150% if it weren't for the "stimulus", and in fact, we should have done it 5 times bigger so that it REALLY would have worked!!!! Government spending is the only thing big enough to keep us from shooting ourselves.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Aug 13, 2011 -> 08:28 PM) Every child should have an opportunity to go to school. Thats my belief. And do your children not have access to public education? Where does it stop? Who knows, but Im pretty sure that I can make independent decisions. But his idea that all children should get education, I completely agree with. Ahh, so you're going to vote for him over Barack? Re: first sentance, absolutely. But what if I want you to fund a better education for my child? Again, not just on public education, and this is my whole issue with the government controlling (nearly) every aspect of social welfare - where does it stop?

For the love of poop, I've posted in this thread before.

Well, that speech is in 2001. Mexico and Canadian trucks now have the same regulations. Okay, fine. The cherry pick of children should get educated no matter where they're from... tell you what. You send me your money right now to educate my children. It's to the benefit of society as a whole, and I don't want you to complain for one second about it. Oh, that's what your taxes are for? To educate every child OF THE WORLD in your local schools? If that's what you believe, then you should have no problem funding my every need, because it will benefit society as a whole. Where does it stop?

Kind of agree on the debt point (but let's tax more, right?!?!), but more then that, think about the US as a product cycle, you know, the classical ... infant, growth, mature, decline deal that they teach you in business school? The US is pretty much at the "mature" stage, and there's not really a place to absorb a lot of buying. Houses? Nope. Households have 6 cars per family. Technology? Not really, everyone has a computer. Oh, I have an idea, let's make EVERYONE buy an electric car!! Well, okay, except that won't work, either. It's not like there's some big huge MANUFACTURING issue that is going to get the US going again. I know that the hope and change crowd wants environmental type of expansion to be that next big thing, but it's cost prohibitive or it would have been done already a long time ago. Now, you'd want the government to come in and subsidize this type of activity, and what would that do? Pop goes the weasel.

Caught up in the randomness of it all.

So the only thing that can grow jobs is the government? Wrong. That's the problem, you think the only thing that will solve it is bigger government (or more government control). Meanwhile, that straw man who's walking back into the house here is that only the rich get richer. The only thing that can solve this problem is that the rich get taxed and the "good government" will pass it back out to the poor. If it were that simple, every government would be communist/socialist, and I'm not saying that as a dirty word, it simply is. If the duplicity of regulations and real protections from things that matter were in place (sure, 100% pure market capitalism cannot work), things might get moving again. The problem is bigger then government, though. The real problem is that our country is too mature in the growth cycle at this point.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAand here we go again!

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 13, 2011 -> 07:01 PM) Fired up whackos is a good thing for your party. It makes your base turn out. It's how you won in 2010. Yup. Tea Party Ru-paul, despite their rhetoric trying as hard as they can to make that stick. But go ahead and try to run with that so you can get your ass kicked at the ballot box again, because "Tea Party" is actually more of a majority, not a minority, in that they want smaller government, less government intrusion, no Obamacare, and actually dealing with social programs on a manageable level. Yea, I know, whackos, especially for people like you who think that government is the only thing that can solve your issues for you.

This right here is enough to get rid of this guy before he even starts: http://governor.state.tx.us/news/speech/10849/

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 13, 2011 -> 06:49 PM) Ron Paul won't win the Republican nomination. That's about the only thing in that race that I'm sure of. I know, but this is going to fire up the whacko's.