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QUOTE(NUKE @ Dec 15, 2006 -> 05:16 AM) These people are foreginers and terrorist suspects to boot and they were captured on foregin soil. They have no business in a U.S. civilian courtroom. PERIOD! If the left would stop holding up the process with their lawsuits these people could get their trial and we could be done with them one way or the other. But but but but THEIR RIGHTS ARE BEING VIOLATED!!!! They lost their "rights" when they declared that they wanted to kill us. Thank me very much.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 09:58 PM) When you say it's not as bad as I claim it is, here's my counterpoint. The ISG report, as a case study, did a detailed look at one day last summer. The official report for that day, just chosen at random, was about 90 attacks/civil war incidents. But when the ISG sat down and analyzed the actual results of that day, they were able to find over 1100 incidents of violence, over 90% of which weren't being reported. In other words, if I say it's as bad as what is reported in the media, in terms of total amount of violence, it's actually about an order of magnitude worse. If each one of those on average wound up with 1 person dead, that would result in a greater casualty rate than what came out of the most recent Lancet study. What's "violence"? Mom screaming at the kids? Seriously, there are good things happening over there too, but no one wants to look for it. Does the bad outweigh the good? Certainly. But you won't hear anything good because it doesn't sell TV ads or newspapers.

QUOTE(Damen @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 08:24 PM) There is a very real chance there could be 600,000 dead. I'm sure you've got valid reasons why you seem to dismiss it out of hand, please share them. I think it's our fault to the point that there wouldn't be potentially 600,000 dead had this administration not invaded a country with little thought of what to do next. If I believed "Amerikkkans killed all those people", I would have said so. But I don't, so I didn't. Why you felt the need to bring it up, I've got no idea. I do know that it was in response to my question about what the good news in Iraq is at the moment. I'm going to assume you disagree with me that there is very little good news to report in Iraq, that the media is making things worse than they actually are. If that's the case, good argument. It's certainly not all roses and flowery crap that the right wing blowhards like to say, but it's not as bad as the other side claims it is, either. It's war. It will suck. Of COURSE it's not that great over there. Hell, sounds to me like we should all pack up for a glory trip to Baghdad, don'tcha think? Riiight. We're not that dumb, Laura. You're right for the most part, but I also think that going around throwing 600,000 people killed around and generally insinuating that we're the single cause of it, is not correct, and I also think that number is inflated to gain more ammunition to "get out".

Your strawman argument is using 600,000 people killed and then saying in a round about way that it's our fault. Really? Is it? Is that what you think?

I really hope that this goes away quickly by his recovery. Otherwise, we are going to have Republicans going crazy for his seat, and the Democrats using his funeral for a GOP bashing party and political stump speech.

QUOTE(Damen @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 07:53 PM) I would have loved to see Laura pressed on explaining some of the great things that are happening around Baghdad today. That talking point would go away if those who used were ever asked about that. Potentially up to 600,000 dead. Millions flooding Syria and Jordan to escape the violence. Dozens of bullet-ridden bodies piling up daily. An entire providence conceeded to Al Queda connected Sunni insurgents. The most popular and powerful political figure in Iraq, by far, is the one fighting against US troops. What's the good news that should be reported in the face of that? That we were never able to restore power to pre-war levels? That we stopped focusing on opening schools long ago because security spiraled out of control? It's a joke that even in this stage someone like her will try and say the media is making things worse out than they actually are. Oh boy. Nice, sparky. And WE AMERIKKKANS killed all those people! *sigh* Now, again, comes the predictible response.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 07:14 PM) If you are going to use that analogy, then make it accurate. What you describe is what Afghanistan was supposed to be (and started off being). Whats happened since then is a witch hunt for people who may or may not be considering entering your property with ill intent. That is what I have a problem with. They themselves say Iraq is the battleground. That's good enough for me for us to take them out. I know what line's coming up next. Saddam's regime supported these dirtbags, so he was a part of the larger war on terror. One domino at a time.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 05:00 PM) And I'm talking about the kind of people that will slit a reporters throat on camera and braodcast the tape across the world or the type of people that will hang and burn the bodies of non-combatants from a bridge. The type of people that will drag the beheaded bodies of American's through the street. The are not deserving of the protections of OUR constitution and have no legitimate claim to those protecetions. The method of war that they have chosen to wage denies them the protections of the Geneva convention. They made their choices and they started this s*** by slaughtering nearly 3000 of our citizens. As far as their human rights are concerned, I could care less. f*** them! Post of the year, right there. But of course, wa wa waaaaaaahh we have to "protect" these jerks to "rise above it all". Look, indefinite imprisonment is too good for these guys, they'll get treated better in our prisons then they will outside of it. I do NOT condone torture or any of that garbage, but otherwise, let them sit.

That doesn't sound good, does it?

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 08:11 AM) I'm really divided on this issue. We do need the means to protect the homeland and we should do what it takes to do so. However, putting unchecked power in anyone's hands is an invitation to disaster. The setting of precedence also concerns me. I don't give a rats ass about those guys pulled off the battlefields of Afghanistan or Iraq. They can rot for all I care. Yet, we have encountered a US citizen or two over there and they should never be denied their constitutional rights. This is like swimming across the everglades ... if we make it through without getting bit, we'll be damn lucky. That's a pretty good summary.

I Just saw the reports this morning that he's in critical condition. Damn. Hopefully he comes out of it.

It sounds like Republicans are already 'salivating' - which is pure bunk if that's the case.

I've got a lot to say about this, but I don't have time right now. And, I'm not trying to be egotistical, but I know a LOT more about this then most people because of contacts in the sport - management, players, and agents. I'll try to chime in later.

I think my problem is that Congress doesn't have enough restraint (with either party in charge) to stick to this. I almost guarantee there's some sort of loophole here.

*raises hand for line item veto*

QUOTE(Texsox @ Dec 12, 2006 -> 03:45 AM) Of course killing is the only solution you ever see. LMAO. Kill everyone. Did you happen to remember the President's approval rating the weeks after the Iraq invasion? It's only when the American public is lied to and the premise for the war is bulls*** that we back down. The premise behind the war is NOT bulls***, but the pussy-whipped Americans, as Nuke as put it, has listened to 5 years of "BUSH LIED", and now, we're on the verge of getting Vietnamed. I'm so glad we learned our lessons. How it was packaged may have been bulls***, and our methods of dealing with things since the inital 6 weeks of the war may have been wrong, but the reasons behind it certainly are not. But no one wants to talk about that, because they have let political bigotry get in the way.

Happy Birthday, you old bastard! Hope you and the fam have a great day.

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Dec 12, 2006 -> 03:56 AM) i'm finishing my accounting 2 final as we speak....didn't read the book or take notes. needless to say, I won't be doing my own taxes. I will get a B in the class however. I slept through Accounting classes. Ask southsider. But hey, I must have absorbed something, since I'm now a Certified Pain in the Ass.

QUOTE(maggliopipe @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 08:14 PM) I find this to be true with one notable exception: Taco Bell commercials. There's just something about those commercials that always get me hankering for some Taco Bell. Especially their awesome green onions. Enjoy that e-coli.

Basically, when someone does a search and it hangs up, the requests for information on the rest of the site (the day to day stuff) starts backing up. If two or more of those get stuck when the traffic is high, the site starts slowing down, or if really bad, freezes up while the search request(s) are being performed. If the search is for something really small or hard to find, the program won't process the rest of the requests behind it until it finishes the first request (in this case, the search that's bogging things down). Hopefully that explains the issue better.

Folks: For some reason, this is a lightning rod topic. However, please be sensible and courteous to other posters, no matter what their feelings are on the topic. Thanks, Kap

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Dec 9, 2006 -> 11:02 PM) It could also be the follow up to the secret session that Reid called last year regarding Iraq intelligence and the investigation that the 109th never actually got around to finishing. Oh, but Rex, I thought they weren't going to waste their time on all the inquiries and all that crap? I thought they were "going to be above the fray"? Pluuuuuheeease. Anyone want to start an over/under when the censure/impeachment s*** starts up?

QUOTE(Goldmember @ Dec 8, 2006 -> 10:00 PM) iirc, hackers messed with them (the frontpages), so they were taken down until they could be redone... That's more or less it. The coding behind the front pages was a little loose. We're working on it during the winter months to make sure that this stuff doesn't happen again.

Yea, it is. Just ask people in Israel.

That would be cool. Or is it 2nd and 3rd for VP? I don't remember how it worked.