kapkomet

This really is the best thread ever. Now see, I need to win this one AND the other one. Then, I'd be just l(ight).

I love the fact that this selloff started the MINUTE Barackus the Great gave his wonderful speech about how f***ing retarded (to coin a phrase) the banks are and he "will make them pay". Let's all remember that.

This is the best thread ever.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 5, 2010 -> 09:54 AM) Thankfully the Democrats led the way on this to prove that it works. LIAR! Here's 75,246 liberal blogs that says you're wrong. You can't back up anything you say. Or, are you saying that Republicans led the Democrats to lead the way on maybe, possibly, proving this might work someday? Therefore, it's the Republican's fault for taking something tried... right?

That a snake is going to choke you to death in your dream.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 5, 2010 -> 09:01 AM) Not sure where to put this, since we don't have a "Tea Party" thread... Apparently, the Tea Party Nation is currently having its first "official" convention. The keynote speaker is Tom Tancredo. Here are some of this comments: And, the reaction from the party organizers: Tancredo is too hateful even for that crowd. How did that guy ever get elected to anything? And is this Tea Party movement, overall, going to be good or bad for the GOP? If Glenn Beck "leads it", it won't be good. Let's put it that way.

As we've shown you time and again, clearly, no? Seriously? Taking over of health care by our government is pretty radical (left). Taking over automotive industries is pretty radical (left). Taking over bank industry is pretty radical (left). Taking over pay for businesses in general is pretty radical (left). Taking over the tax structure because there's so much debt that no one will EVER be able to pay it is pretty radical (left). I'm sensing a pattern here........ Meanwhile, the MAJORITY of Americans don't like this s***. I'd say that makes them right of center. I'm not talking bat s*** crazy right like Pat Buchannan, but I'm saying that people don't want government intervention in their lives, regarding social or fiscal issues. The current clan of Democrats want the government to define nearly everything we do, including how much water we flush when we take a s***. I simply can't understand why that concept doesn't resonate with you big liberals.

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Feb 5, 2010 -> 08:41 AM) You claim this is a Center Right country, but I show you a poll released yesterday that says that 60% of Colorado (which is not a particularly liberal or conservative state) supports a medicare buy in. But that's ok, keep moving those goalposts. QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 5, 2010 -> 08:48 AM) LOL @ Center Right country. That makes no sense - the center of the country is the center of the country. Being center-right means, by nature, you are right of the center for the country. And I don't think the politcal center of the country has moved at all. For that matter, I don't think the Dems have moved either - but I am quite sure that a substantial piece of the GOP leadership has moved decidedly right in the past 15 years or so. Yea, ok. Where's that ostrich smilie? On a continuum, this country is more conservative in their values then liberal. It's ok, though. You all explaining that the (especially top) Democrat party hasn't moved left at all explains volumes. Yet, leadership can't quite seem to get their s*** passed through. I wonder why that is? It couldn't be that voters don't want the bulls*** that they are trying to force us down, could it?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 5, 2010 -> 08:50 AM) OH jeez, sorry, that's not what I meant. I meant investing in water BUSINESS - technology and systems for refining, filtering, cleaning, desalinating, and conserving water. There are ETFs that specifically trade companies that do that sort of thing, which I think are very good long term bets. That's my "other" opportunity, sort of. Water towers. All cash, construction business. Yea, no debt at all.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 5, 2010 -> 06:46 AM) Please, just drop the "Everyone is equally evil and bad" bulls***. It simply isn't true, especially in this case. Yep. See? The Democrats are okay, the Republicans are "more bad".

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 11:58 PM) Asked in Colorado - Poll released yesterday. Colorado is a purple state. Would you favor or oppose the national government offering everyone the choice of buying into a government administered health insurance plan — something like the Medicare coverage that people 65 and older get — that would compete with private health insurance plans? Favor - 58%, Oppose - 36% Democrats Favor - 85, Oppose 12 Republicans Favor - 29, Oppose 63 Independents Favor - 59, Oppose 34 http://coloradoindependent.com/47082/poll-...colorado-voters When the concept of a public option is separated from a legislative question, its still highly popular. There are plenty of issue polls to completely dismiss the idea that the country is "Center Right". But even assuming your assumption of being center right is correct, this hold isn't about ideology, its about earmarks. And if a Democrat did it, it'd be wrong too. The problem is you cannot separate the public option from a legislative question. THAT IS THE PROBLEM. GOVERNMENT (Aka, the LEGISLATIVE BODY) is the one imposting the rules.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 10:41 PM) Kap, I learned more about how to think critically and analyze information I had no previous experience with or knowledge of in law school. I was a history major and learned quite a bit of interesting stuff in undergrad, but the stuff that really makes a difference for me now, I learned all of that in law school. I think more classes like ethics and logic should be focused on, as well as critical writing. I don't disagree with that, but I also think that there's more to the "general ed" classes then just a blowoff or a way to make money. It's to get a grounding of certain basic elements. You're right in the sense that (in my field) I didn't learn about contract law or GAAP in BIO1000. Sure, you're geared to learning to what you need to know as you zero in on what it is your career path is. But at a fundamental level, when you start college, the point is to be able to be taught to think critically about any subject matter. Not just "law", or "spreadsheets", or "journalism" (or to say, classes about writing style).

QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 10:25 PM) Heard an interesting stat last night......in 2009 the filibuster was used more often than it was used in the 1950's and 1960's....combined. To quote the anchor, the republicans fit 20 years of obstructionism into 1. Pretty impressive. When you have a lurching to the far left (by American standards), and the population is center right, this is what you get.

The point isn't about what classes you take, it's your ability to adapt and learn something that's not the subject that you're in. The point also is to be able to think critically about a subject you might not be an expert in. bmags, I'll try to use an example. What guides your philosphy on global warming? Should you be guided on some scientific theories you might have learned in some science class, or should you be guided by some journalist who doesn't know a damn thing about it? I'm not mocking you here, I'm trying to ask a question that might make you see why sometimes a BIO1000 or a SCI1000 or whatever might become relevant. For me, I'm in finance and accounting, yet I can see the relevance of taking general curriculum courses, because you have to be able to understand some things that might be out of your realm sometimes. What molecules make up that pharma product you're making? What chemicals are used in making that piece of steel lighter and used in an airplane? Why would you use titanium instead of aluminum? How does that explain cost differentials (of course that's more economics)... but I'm just throwing out some things to chew on here. I ran across this quote from (oh s***... ) asshatery101, I mean Rush Limbaugh, that he said within the last couple of days, I guess: There's a lot of truth in that statement. And that's why, IMO, for a field like journalism, you want to be "well rounded". Feeling something is true, doesn't make it true. And that's what this "extra curriculum" helps with, IMO.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 10:16 PM) It's things like these, that the average American who doesn't follow politics closely, doesn't even know are possible or that they occur in our legislation process. This is the reason I don't follow politics. How could anyone want to when this bulls*** goes on back and forth? The picture that's painted is that Republicans are the only one to pull this s***. Everything they do is "unprecedented". Uh huh. Everything is bulls*** now. That's why we have a lunatic in the White House after a lunatic just left. And I don't ever see that cycle breaking because all the good people that might be worthy stay out of it for the exact questions you ask above.

Uh oh, Palin didn't pay some taxes. SCANDALOUS!

QUOTE (Tex @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 08:13 PM) You better go back for your PhD Yea. Except I really can't right now.

http://247wallst.com/2010/02/04/us-recessi...nted-by-824000/ Holy crap. What does that mean for April until now? We could EASILY see 12% UE #'s and 20%+ on the U6. Oh but wait... no we won't. Why? Because the 824,000+ have already given up.

College is mandatory - I mean, we have to keep indoctrinating the liberal bias.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 07:59 PM) Government isn't absolved here. That doesn't make any "keeping talent" excuses for bonuses any less stupid. Well, you have to keep the people who know how to manipulate the system, right?

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 07:23 PM) Democrats have a 2010 edge in fundraising. DCCC: $ 3.8/ $ 16.6 NRCC: $ 3.2/ $ 2.6 DSCC: $ 3.4/ $ 12.5 NRSC: $ 4.1/ $ 8.3 DNC: $ 4.5/ $ 8.6 RNC: $ 6.8/ $ 8.4 TOTAL DEMOCRATIC: $ 11.7/ $ 37.8 TOTAL REPUBLICAN: $ 14.1/ $ 19.3 Which is exactly why GOP won't win, and in addition, the Dems need to stop whining about the SCOTUS decision. They get theirs as well.

Yea, only because he's a drop of pee in a vast ocean compared to your post total.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 06:50 PM) All the more reason to stabilize the foundations by handing out millions in bonuses. Wouldn't want to lose that bubble-inflating talent, would we?! Right. The government, even though they own this crap for the most part, knew nothing of these bonuses. I've got some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you as well.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 06:05 PM) Bubble Boy Balta? I guess when your career is spent waiting for earthquakes, you just assume that all manners of life are on the brink of catastrophe. Yep, that was my lead in. Banks are indeed pretty earthquakish, though. Those shifty bastards.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 05:57 PM) No, they've figured out two things. One, there is a recovery (as was priced in), but its not strong enough to build serious job-creating momentum. And two, the markets priced in a recovery such that they are priced out 2 years or so, which is way to far - so they are edging back. "the bubble is coming, the bubble is coming"... (Balta)...