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I’m not sure what I should/allowed to post. But “Carlson is an electric defender at shortstop with an 80 arm and surprising power for someone who has barely begun to fill out his frame, coming into pro ball with a high floor thanks to that combination and the upside of a frequent All-Star if the White Sox can help him get to more contact with some swing changes.” Law List Athletic

Law: 30: Montgomery 44: Bonemer 58: Smith 66: Carlson 95: Schultz List

Reliever, if keep both Rule 5 guys, which I hope they do. Otherwise bench player because the Sox have a lot of position players to audition;

Well, Acuna, Baldwin and Pereira should be out there most days. Benintendi of course. Kelenic, per some, has a handshake agreement for a spot. Korey Lee might get more time in OF – have to figure something with him. Sosa, and maybe other IF, might shag balls in the OF. Then there are Hill and the Tampa guy; both should be Charlotte players but, as of now, they are not. Could use a good OF, but otherwise, I hope not.

A $5 mill outfielder would just be a blocker and make things worse. Don’t have enough to get a good player, so they are entering “spending just to spend” territory.

The Getz trade acquisition that could really help is Pereira. He looks like a blueprint AAAA hitter – rakes in AAA but can’t do squat in the majors – but his major league sample size is still slight, so there is hope. The Sox gave up 2 major league pitchers for him, albeit back of the roster guys.

Has either pitched beyond A ball? I doubt either will be “ready.” But if they have the talent, which I suspect they do, hide them for a season. they are likely better than the org guy Getz will get when he trades his Free Agent middle reliever in July.

Should have gone SS in '24 and Pitcher in '25. (I say that because I really didn't like Smith ) Carlson may be good; just surprised he's ranked so low this soon after the draft.

Re the pen, I see these 5 as locks Taylor Vasil Leasure Gonzalez Newcomb And they need t0 find a spot for the 2 rule 5 guys, 1 for sure and 2 likely in the pen. For 1/2 spots, you have Gilbert who was decent and Eisert almost decent. I hope failed starters like Cannon get pen time. There really isn’t much room for Getz' $20 mill. in a rebuild pen situation.

To me, the #10 pick in last year’s draft ranked only #91 was disappointing.

Maybe so, isn’t this on along the same lines as those trades? Aren’t most/all Getz trades (except Crochet) kind of similar? Those tampa trades, low stakes as there were, stand out to me as Getz at peak naivete, just accepting soon-to-be org guys. I still get the sense that he evaluates a lot of our return based on what the other GMs tell him. Listen to him go on about how the Mets hated losing Acuna. Getz seems awfully trusting of these GMs who are trying to rip him off.

I realize that - @fathom lists the players that he thinks Sox will add; I'm listing the ones that I hope the Sox will add. I agree his list is more likely.

I hope not. Those would be a signings just to sign. Overall, they would likely make things worse. Do a deal with Gonsolin; give him some $$ this year and some club options for next 2. Or sign one or both of Verlander and Scherzer to a 1/$20, with the promise that we’ll trade them to a contender in July.

the Sox have jammed themselves up with so many questionable players who are at the point in their career for which the Sox have a “use ‘em or lose ‘em” decision that any positional free agent would crowd out necessary auditions…particularly of infielders playing outfield. Conforto would be ridiculous ; Just sign a good pitcher.

Another infielder….always on the other teams’ terms. Hard to see the urgency to come away with this deal. But let’s see how he spends the $20 million.

I thought that ban-bets were like duels of the old days, when you just shoot into the air. But I guess this one took the Aaron Burr approach.

Gonsolin on the cheap for the rebound.

I don’t see the urgency to trade either Meidroth or Sosa. Neither is fully fleshed out and neither will bring a whole lot in return. Sure if we can find a similarly situated OF, parcularly CF; but more likely, this is when thev start dumping young players for middle relievers and other assorted dullards. Same thing with our catchers, unless someone offers something interesting for Lee. I think some OF work for Sosa would be wise.

Didn't become a starter until Johnny Sain moved him to the rotation in 1971 at the age of 29....11.7 bWAR for his efforts. 10.7 in 1972. But a liner to the knee effectively ended his career and HOF chances (although he should have had some HOF mention). Great Sox! May he rest in peace.

As waiver claims, sure. Miller, in particular, has been really bad the past 2 seasons. Dodgers can’t possibly expect anything more than some org. guys for either.

Key word. And we’re not just asking for a team just to pay salary, but to also dispatch some quality young talent in return. Get teams like Reds, Pirates, Mariners interested, or we’ll be down to a choice of whether to take or leave Mets’ utility players.

Well his fWar the last 2 seasons was .6 and 1.3. Get his salary down to the value of his actual production and more teams will be interested, such as Reds

I suspect that the Mets are offering spare parts (Vientos, e.g.); after Getz rejects offer, they leak to Heyman that Sox’ demands are unreasonable. Spare parts worked for Rays and the Dodgers so I guess they’ll keep trying. Robert wouldn’t have gotten anywhere near $20 mill w/option in open market. Reds just got some little salary relief, so offer to pay down $10 mill and see if Sox can nab comp pick and whatever else. Draft of the decade is coming up, and more cap $ is especially important given their draft philosophy.

If Schultz, Smith and Taylor (at least 2 of the 3) were ready to dominate as starters, I could see it.

Oh well, I will nitpick Tucker. If you go by FanGraphs, he’s never had a 5-war season. And his defense is a negative, at least per the war factory. . last year, he had the same number of homers as our very own Lenyn Sosa.