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Rays and the Getz FO seem to work well together. This is the 3rd player the Sox have sent to the Rays, including thais who was a legit major leaguer. The Rays probably gave the Sox the heads-up on Vasil. Good win-win situation.

Of course the Phillies et al are interested in Taylor: they think they can get this top-of-the rotation talent for the price of a reliever. Trading him for Crawford (much less Robert and him for Crawford) under-values him. The Sox may see him as a reliever, but he certainly shouldn't price him as one. That would be clowning.

Informed as in information about goings on in front office. Also posted a lot of info on draft prospects. Jimmy brings a lot of info too. Everyone has opinions on players, trades, etc.

Can't let those twerps chase him off. Most informed poster on the board. Re Robert return, I'm good with pitching. Can't ever have enough and if teams are more willing to trade it, oblige them. We need a CF; but it's unlikely that this deadline solves that anyway.

Naylor didn't bring Cleveland a haul when sent to Arizona either. I'd pass on Naylor. Need better defenders (and players with some speed).

Vasil is certainly part of the core. Probably a starter next season. Control an issue, but he's got guts. Leasure is part of the core. Needs work on control, but a lot of talent, Pretty much all of the young pitchers need command improvement (taylor would become great with command). As soon as the Sox move the vets out of the pen, we'll see if Palette et al can enter the core.

Perhaps not, but in this case, Kopech and Edman were big contributors to the Dodgers World Championship, so the Dodgers certainly won. But in trades, there can be multiple winners; and not in the "everyone gets a trophy" sense. Good business deals are win-win. Did the Sox win? they did trade a very good reliever and a top 10 at the time WAR pitcher. So I'd say not yet, but we'll see how Vargas and the others progress going forward. (if measured from Fedde's signing, obvious winners).

Big game tonight; yesterday's 1-run loss (another one) needs to be just a hiccup. Rays are flailing ducks. Keep the good play coming.

What?? That’s the whole point- we can get those slow-mover guys, the good ones, for free. And we aren’t short of our own decliners - Charlotte’s full of them and we’ve been claiming them all season. Again, for free

If all we get are offers worthy of, say, a .200 hitter, then why not?

Generally, if that’s what they have, they will use them themselves. It’s the.AAAA close to the major variety that they will foist on us. or they will try to give us prospects still in the low minors who have to be rule five protected. in all, that they have to be rule five protected decreases their value

that’s okay; there are lots of intriguing prospects who haven’t hit the top 100 lists. Just avoid the rule 5 eligible guys (which is the profile of player they will want to send us).

Seems like Tauchman should be worth a decent prospect. The Astros, per Nightengale, have announced they want a LH bat. Maybe the want someone with more power, but the Astros don't have a ton to trade to get one. Tauchman's a good player. Any pen veteran should be moved, but I think these will be the last second guys. I don't see any bringing a Tanner Banks return. At the beginning of the year, I expected the Sox to move one of the starters with control (Martin, e.g.). Probably next year or perhaps December for that.

28-34 avoids 100 losses. A modest goal. And after days like today, perhaps 35-27, which would get the Sox to 70 wins.

47-15.

Only team in MLB without a sweep. Time to change that.

Not to sidetrack, but the direct cause of the 68-70 debacle was the single worst trade in the history of the White Sox : trading our best player, Tommy Agee, for Tommy Davis. Even I, at the tender age of 9, knew that trade was cataclysmic the moment it was announced. There were couple of other really bad moves as well. IOf course bad seasons punched a lot harder when I was 9....

The Mets may need him even more than the Phillies do. They could also use an IF (although I really hope we don't trade Sosa). Should set up a legitimate bidding war (not Mets Rule 5/AAAA player v. Phillies Rule 5/AAAA player).

Those 2, especially Mahle, seem very Houser-like.

Then this trade won't matter anyway because the prospects received will have flamed out long before then. Rebuilds should take 3-4 years. This one was a little deeper so perhaps 4-5; but really 3-4. We should see real tangible progress on the field next year. These things can turn quickly - pitching can help. Sox may have more close-to-ready pitching than it appears. If Getz doesn't have this thing humming in a couple of years, then JR needs to move on from him. Of course refusal to move on from non-performing personnel has been the real curse of JR all these years. I hope they can get something interesting for him. But teams aren't going to want to trade squat. Just be leery of Rule 5 "prospects."

If he rakes the 2nd half, the tradee will likely pick up his option.

It's all kind of a shame because the team that could really use Robert is the White Sox.

More of this, please!

I think Sosa will hit; he also isn't the FO prototype and I think it's healthy to have a few players who are not the prototype especially for this unproven FO. I hope they keep him (absent, obviously an overpay) I think they'll move him with any decent offer because he isn't the prototype.

Good question. I'm not so sure about those Orioles, but more generally, should the Sox sell Martin, Cannon or Smith for market value. Any player is available for the right price, but at fair value? Martin perhaps, but the others will likely continue to improve. And feel more confident if Schultz and Taylor hadn't hit a hiccup. But the Sox will have to make some moves to get this fixed.