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Back to the norm. Where does Getz come up with the likes of Noda and Capra? (and Slater and Rojas, et al). And then Venable puts Noda at leadoff. WTF is going on here? He's not giving the team a chance to win. Not that it's a big-deal long term...but no need to intentionally knee yourself short term.

Trading young for old is usually a bad idea. He also traded a young pitching prospect for Julks and a whole bunch of international $ for that Gonzales guy from the Astros AAA team. Those are the sorts of lazy trades that Hahn used to do. Of course Getz hasn't made any disasters, but I hate to see him pick up bad habits.

As Hawk once said "They find another way," And I'll keep asking WTF are Slater, Rojas, Noda and Capra doing on this team? Enough with the clown act, Getz.

Get him in round 2. Should have a lot of good options there and in 3 and 4 as well.

Very disheartening. But a lot of this is Getz own choices with the roster. Capra, Rojas, Slater, Taylor, Noda should be nowhere near this team. There is not a legitimate reason to have a single mediocre or worse veteran on this team, much less 6 of them (let’s not forget Benintendi, but he’s sort of forced). They contribute nothing. The Sox would get more benefit from any and all of Jelks, Fletcher, DeLoach, Lee, Elko, Baldwin and others from Charlotte playing instead of those veteran clowns. If one of the Charlotte crew finally puts it all together, it’s a huge win for the Sox. He's got some big trades he needs to make too. And it's not just Getz. Shirley too. A lot of bluster from the Sox drafts, but so far it's Crochet 5 years ago (and he was really for the bullpen).

Or even if Jo Jo isn't the pick. To me, the players ranked 40-60 don't look that much different than a lot of the players of the players ranked 10-30. As of now, I'm in the round-1-underslot/no punt (at least until late) strategy camp.

You're probably right. As a sweetener, the Padres can take any reliever they want (except Taylor). Heck, take 2. I wonder what the Sox could get for Martin. If they get a premium offer for him, they should move him; but only for a premium. -

All the reasons why Elko, Baldwin and others are in AAA ring hollow when Rojas and Capra reside on the 26-man. And Slater and Taylor. No development going on with the above. And most aren't even holding their own as bottom of the roster players. They are just bad players. Meanwhile AAA is stuffed with players who really do need an audition. What is the point of this?

Sosa should be at 2B. Rojas should be nowhere near this team.

Could the Sox please expand the DFA list to include Noda, Rojas, Slater, Capra. What are we doing here?

Noda? Come on.

Just because Baldwin is not a first baseman. Even if he does well, he still isn’t going to deliver like a first base needs to. Baldwin needs to work in centerfield; ultimately he’s probably a utility guy and perhaps a really good one. I’m not confident that Elko is the answer. But he’s the only first baseman Sox have that’s anywhere close right now. And Sox are in a position to give players real chances. I would give Fletcher and Julks another go over slater et al.

Give Elko the rest of the season. The mix and match options will always be available. Rojas along with Slater et al should be DFAd in the near future (Slater today, really).

Another sucky 1-run loss. Why is Meidroth playing 2nd? He is a plus SS defensively. Slayton, Capra: please DFA this absurdities. We have guys in Charlotte who need another look anyway.

I wonder at which positions the true depth of this draft resides...not just the first 50 picks, but the first 200 or so. The Sox edge is drafting first in rounds 2-20. Use it. If they didn’t a draft corner OF Masher Jac @#5 last year, I can’t see drafting Irish now. Jace might be a good gamble, if they have real insight of his issues and how to fix them. CF is big. I would hope not another pitcher, all things being equal.

Fair enough. Who did I miss? I did take a conservative approach. I’m not counting on any position prospects yet because the promising ones that I see (outside of Colson) are still in A ball. I haven't completely given up on some of the AAA guys, but not counting on them either.

I wonder if Luis Robert isn't a casualty of the new approach. In his 5-WAR year, he only had 30 walks all season. In this, his worst year, he already has 25. The new approach may help Robert in the long-run if he sticks with it....but for the Sox, the run is about 6 weeks. I'm certainly thrilled with the new direction overall.

Kenny Williams made lot of trades that were poor value; a lot of them. But most didn't end up so bad because the prospects he traded away largely ended up doing nothing. He also made some brilliant moves. And then the weird: He trades a top 25 in MLB prospect, our starting catcher and another prospect to rent Freddie Garcia for 2 months....and then extends him and then we win the WS. He trades 5 WAR Carlos Lee for 1 WAR Podsednik and a middle reliever....but darned if it doesn't work. I don't know whether all of his was luck or a great eye for talent or both. ,

This vividly shows how far the “new and improved” White Sox still have to go. What we confidently have going forward is a SS, 3B and 2 Catchers. On the pitching side, several ¾ starters. 1st Base is TBD. Or, put another way, we still need 2 top-of-rotation starters, 4 front-line relievers (we have none on the 26-man, really), a 2B, 3 Outfielders, and possibly a 1st baseman. And, of course, a bench. I’m optimistic that some of the gaps can be filled with guys already in the minors (pitching, 2B perhaps). I think we’ll spend $ when it makes sense to do so (it made no sense to spend in 24 or 25). I’m still leery of the quality of the drafting and when will we get back into the international game?

On only 1 hit.... and 2 BB and 2 HBPs. The math works!

No we don't. But we should move him if there is a "match" - but fodder for Charlotte is not a match

For a real prospect, yes trade. For a Rule 5 guy, the likely offer, keep him.

On one of those Athletic podcasts, ole Eno was trying to make that comparison, but Jed Lowrie, pro infielder turned analyst, was having none of it.

That’s how I see it as well. Sometimes it may be better to just let players alone and be themselves. Robert has a real upside that could reveal itself quickly; if multiple teams are interested, one might pay more than his value. It happens all the time for pitching in July. Regardless, no interest in trading him or anyone else for Rule-5 eligible prospects (there are exceptions, but rare). Giveaways set a bad precedent and the Sox have enough Rule 5 guys. They could use some A ball or DSL lottery tickets, however.

Vasil continues to impress. I think the plan is rotation for next year, although I wonder if the lack of slider or cutter will eventually limit him. Vasil, Smith, Martin, Burke, Cannon would make a strong 3-5 behind 2 aces. There's depth plus each of those guys is at least a 4. I think we're going to need that because getting top 5 or 10 offense is going to be a long trudge. Only a few teams are willing to trade it away; and I'm not sure that the Sox have the skills to identify, draft and develop sufficient talent themselves without trades. I still think that it's time for a more aggressive churn of the 26 man. Palacios is a fine, gregarious fellow, but I think we've seen enough of his game. Rojas, et al.