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I thought that was fairly clear when the promoted him to AAA, when he couldn’t hit in A ball. It is odd that he had to ask to get coached...he wasn't that old.

Supposedly Smith was Getz’ choice. But the pitching drafting overall has been lacking. Pitching busts are common...need some volume.

Smith was a 5 inning pitcher in college. Shirley’s pitching evaluation has been ??

Emphatic cancellation of the post-game show. Nice!

Murphy can throw upper 90s. But I agree on Eisert and he's getting worse. And, break this thing up in the 9th, please.

Anthony Kay has some juice. 97 fastball; wide spread down to low 80s Sweeper.

Seems like a reason to keep him. Or just cut him and use the prospect to get a pitcher or something.

I’d do it with a player in the upper minors, preferably for multiple good young pitching prospects. Sox have more known depth there. Carlson is part of the wave that’s coming in 2-3 years. Keep the pipeljne moving.

This is kind of scary; hopefully he can find his 2019 form.

Dylan Cease just signed for c. $25 mill so at $35 mill per year (plus liable for $5 mill on 2027 buyout), Gray is a lot overpaid. He is still effective, but at 35 with a 4 seam that barely reaches 92, this really should be a salary dump situation. But in the realm of buying pitchers in July, which I greatly dislike in general, better the cheap ones like this.

He plays a pretty good 1B. I hope he's in their plans - he ought to be. First-round pick 3 years ago...not really in the desert.

All he has to be is better than Tyler Saladino and he'll be the best signed 7th round pick in Sox history...although Wolkow hopefully will have something to say about it.

That' kind of proves the point: they assembled sufficient depth to move on from the negative WAR guys. I think the only ones on the 26 man are Murphy and Gilbert (is he hurt again?) and they've each been sent down and recalled. So really he's done good job loading the upper minors with these fungible middle reliever types. He also had a smaller budget than 2021, but has hit on 2/3 main FA relievers (I include Hicks in that category as they took on his bad contract for 2 seasons) and Fedde and Kay have been acceptable. That said, I think the org is light on young pitching. Awfully light. And I agree with you on Jones.

But then Balt. did trade and most of those didn't work out well either. (the trade for Burnes excepted). What they gave for "controllable" Baz was something...these GMs just click their heels close their eyes and wish that these average pitchers are somehow more when they are not. I wouldn't mind the Sox doing some prospect-for-prospect or young player trades; but those are better done in the offseason.

I don't know why the Sox need to help out Cleveland. Perhaps use that money to get our hands on a comp pic (obviously we'd have to throw a decent prospect into the mix too).

I would have preferred that our talented DH be dispatched, but I guess Philly wanted an OF who could catch the ball. Maybe when Muri cmes back...

I guess if you're not going to spend it....

My first reaction was "Cannon - not again." But maybe he wasn't so bad: no walks, several Ks and several of the runs were unearned. Has there been a Shane Smith sighting anywhere? A rejuvenated Smith would be better than any trade.

Once Sox went above .500, we never sunk back below. Let's do the same thing with first place.

Contreras was a deadline deal - swap of veterans. Maybe we could do Anthony Kay for... Garcia trade was not a good one; but signing him as a FA was a great move. If it wasn't for these anti-tanking rules (it's not like the Sox sucked on purpose), we'd have Cade Anderson waiting in the wings. Bonemer for Anderson....

I really hope the Tigers hold onto Skubal and get nothing for him. Certainly don't need them loading up with young players. They already have several coming soon. And the Sox trading for him would be ridiculous. It would cost Bonemer; I'm not totally adverse to trading him, but for fair value, which would 3 pitchers (1 major leaguer; 2 good prospects), not one (trade, not a buy). Still Skubal absolutely is an ace, versus faux aces like Alcantra or Webb. Don't be like Hahn or late-era Williams.

Trade Grichuk

Alcantra, a darling of the WAR factory, is a 3. But he's hyped as a 1/2 and is likely priced as such. Renting Skubal would be ridiculous. Sox shouldn't need JR's approval on much because they shouldn't trade for bloated contracts anyway. Contreras and Arraez? What? That's trading for the sake of trading. Sox don't have an opening at first or 2nd. Gonzalez+ for Conteras....a Rick Hahn special. The Sox could actually use a starter. Perhaps Detmers if the price isn't July-juiced.

Just talking trading in general, I go back to this Shane Baz trade, for whom Baltimore sent their 2025 comp draftee, 2026 comp pick (#33) and 3 minor leaguers. Baz is a #3, when he's having a good year. To me, that's a bonkers price for a #3. The price for pitching prospects, however, doesn't appear to be so high.

Well, the Astros took SS Bregman and put him at 3B. A high value SS prospect should be worth 2 high value pitching prospects (re Carlson and his future). And of course he is ++++ on defense, so if he can hit, look out. And the logjam will occur before Carlson is ready: it will be the convergence of Roch, Bonemer and maybe Bergola with Meidroth, Montgomery and Vargas....with some Gonzalez in there.