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Yea, they traded a bunch of prospects for Trevor Rogers and Shane Baz (2025 #1, comp pick + for this guy). Yuck. I can't think of any team that became great buying at the deadline. The Cubs may be the best example, but they were a mature team 1 piece away and they bought it. That trade for Kimbrel - where would the Sox be had the Cubs chosen Crochet instead of Madrigal Can't force anything.

Hahn measured trade (albeit not at deadline): Lance Lynn for Weems and Dunning. Hahn ill-measured trade: Jeff Samardzija for 4 young players. Just asking for a repeat of the Tatis trade: Billy Carlson for a couple of years of veteran X.

Not teams who show their first signs of life. And certainly not with anywhere near their top 5 or 6 prospects. The Dodgers have won a WS and they aren't heavy buyers; Braves aren't;; Yankees don't. Rays don't. Brewers don't. Padres buy heavy; Phillies buy heavy. Baltimore bought Trevor Rogers at the deadline - what a disaster for Baltimore - and a boon for Miami. And really, the successful teams buy on margins - fill out the pen; a depth piece. Don't repeat the Hahn disasters.

Good gracious, people want an old team again. Buying has a 0% success rate. Emulate the Brewers, the Rays. Do not emulate Rick Hahn.

Among other nice things about the game, it was good to see Tyler Davis with an effective bounceback game.

Certainly should always be open to a good deal. What has been accomplished long-term is 6-7 man position-player core (and growing). And that's a big accomplishment. But the 26 man lacks high-end pitching. And the org is seriously short of pitching. And while we have a lot of MI prospects, that can be quickly erased with an injury or 2 or downturn in performance. Getting some young pitching in here so that we can seriously contend should be the focus. Finally have a little depth - don't squander it on relief pitching or old guys. Call the Braves - they always have a lot of pitching prospects. Anthopoulos dealt with an inexperienced Getz very honorably in 2023. And, of course, as a general rule, young for old is just bad business.

He's relentless. Can't ignore him

Bring him up and see what we've got. I wonder if they aren't perhaps waiting for Bergola to return.

And now twitter world wants to trade our best prospects for Mike Trout. Well that's Preller. He's one of a kind (along with a lot of Sox fans on twitter) That Tanner Scott, not Cease, yielded the real prospect, Snelling, is annoying.

I thought Eisert showed promise last year; but many he's really really struggled. I didn't think Leasure earned a demotion, but glad he's doing well in Charlotte. Bring up Gonzalez for DH!

"Elite" is what it would take I think to make a trade (or at least 1 elite) - Sox need to be overpaid. Davis is, what, a high 3/low 2 with 3+ years of control? I would say 2 prospects who project to be 2s is "fair". Then we come to Bryan Hudson.... I do think the system is pretty significantly short on pitching. So I'd look for opportunities.

I'm thinking for a reliever or 2. No use putting more resources into it at this point. Sox OF will sort itself out at some point (although a CF may be problematic). If Martin goes, it's got to be for elite young pitching.

Maybe we can do some business with them. We seem to have a deficit in that position.

Well, when you stop losing so many games late, there isn't anything to tally. I think that everyone is enjoying this team. Some a little too much: they want to trade our best prospects for Mike Trout. My feeling (just guess) is that he'll be gone before July 31. Attendance is up and the team is tangibly improved and competitive. Time to cut some losses. Things are starting to accelerate and the Sox have too much to see and do to waste a 26 man spot like that.

Shields gave 10 runs in Seattle right before the trade. A couple of weeks later, use a first round pick for a quick-to-the-majors college reliever. 6 Weeks after that, Hahn announces it's time to rebuild.

Yes spending is not a panacea. You have to do it judiciously...and that includes deciding which young players to wrap up long term - although taking them through arb +2 or so is a pretty reasonable low-risk policy There's something to be said for keeping the team fresh and relatively young. I think keeping some of the younger relievers in AAA for now makes sense. Get the vets dressed up and traded in July; then bring up the better relievers from AAA

And Blake Larson... does he exist? Used a lot of resources for this guy and he still hasn't hit the leagues.

Start making moves like that, and we'll start a new rebuild in 2028. Run the place like the Brewers run theirs. When they have Ishbia's money, keep running the place like the Brewers run theirs + well-considered Free Agents.

The Sox will have made 3 West Coast trips (their only 3) before they play a game against the Twins, Tigers or Guardians. But then those Central games will come fast and we'll find out.

Bad teams are bad until they aren't. 3 years ago the Royals and Tigers were terrible, and then 2 years ago they were suddenly good. 89 Sox = 69 wins; 90 Sox = 94 wins 99 Sox = 75 wins; 00 Sox = 95 wins 70 Sox = 56 wins (and a worse team, imo, than the 24 Sox), 71= 79 wins; 72= 87 wins (2nd most in AL). It's hard to see this team contending with the best teams in baseball, but for the division (sans Skubal ) - perhaps. They'll need some minor league pitching to step up. One or both of the Smiths would be a good start.

Please make more trades like that, Guardians. Maybe one with the Sox.

He's had reliever risk all along. This is starting to feel like Fulmer risk.

Apparently Roch is a "floor" pick . But why are the Sox looking for floor? We have floor - Montgomery is a fine SS; Bonemer is right behind. Vargas plays a good 3B. Gonzalez and Vaughn were floor picks; frankly, so were Hagen Smith (they misread that floor) and Madrigal. Not that these high school SS are interesting - Emerson is the "floor" among high school ss. The more interesting players are Lackey and Flora; but it's hard to chose them over Roch (unless Roch is an unathletic floor).

Nice game. Needed that one.

Crochet (drafted for the pen) and Taylor, Burke and Schultz, who are all works-in-process, are pretty much the entire pitching yield since 2020 from this great drafting system. Should be able to fill more pen spots with mid-round draftees. And once again, Leasure was far from the worst pitcher in this pen.