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Perhaps not, but in this case, Kopech and Edman were big contributors to the Dodgers World Championship, so the Dodgers certainly won. But in trades, there can be multiple winners; and not in the "everyone gets a trophy" sense. Good business deals are win-win. Did the Sox win? they did trade a very good reliever and a top 10 at the time WAR pitcher. So I'd say not yet, but we'll see how Vargas and the others progress going forward. (if measured from Fedde's signing, obvious winners).

Big game tonight; yesterday's 1-run loss (another one) needs to be just a hiccup. Rays are flailing ducks. Keep the good play coming.

What?? That’s the whole point- we can get those slow-mover guys, the good ones, for free. And we aren’t short of our own decliners - Charlotte’s full of them and we’ve been claiming them all season. Again, for free

If all we get are offers worthy of, say, a .200 hitter, then why not?

Generally, if that’s what they have, they will use them themselves. It’s the.AAAA close to the major variety that they will foist on us. or they will try to give us prospects still in the low minors who have to be rule five protected. in all, that they have to be rule five protected decreases their value

that’s okay; there are lots of intriguing prospects who haven’t hit the top 100 lists. Just avoid the rule 5 eligible guys (which is the profile of player they will want to send us).

Seems like Tauchman should be worth a decent prospect. The Astros, per Nightengale, have announced they want a LH bat. Maybe the want someone with more power, but the Astros don't have a ton to trade to get one. Tauchman's a good player. Any pen veteran should be moved, but I think these will be the last second guys. I don't see any bringing a Tanner Banks return. At the beginning of the year, I expected the Sox to move one of the starters with control (Martin, e.g.). Probably next year or perhaps December for that.

28-34 avoids 100 losses. A modest goal. And after days like today, perhaps 35-27, which would get the Sox to 70 wins.

47-15.

Only team in MLB without a sweep. Time to change that.

Not to sidetrack, but the direct cause of the 68-70 debacle was the single worst trade in the history of the White Sox : trading our best player, Tommy Agee, for Tommy Davis. Even I, at the tender age of 9, knew that trade was cataclysmic the moment it was announced. There were couple of other really bad moves as well. IOf course bad seasons punched a lot harder when I was 9....

The Mets may need him even more than the Phillies do. They could also use an IF (although I really hope we don't trade Sosa). Should set up a legitimate bidding war (not Mets Rule 5/AAAA player v. Phillies Rule 5/AAAA player).

Those 2, especially Mahle, seem very Houser-like.

Then this trade won't matter anyway because the prospects received will have flamed out long before then. Rebuilds should take 3-4 years. This one was a little deeper so perhaps 4-5; but really 3-4. We should see real tangible progress on the field next year. These things can turn quickly - pitching can help. Sox may have more close-to-ready pitching than it appears. If Getz doesn't have this thing humming in a couple of years, then JR needs to move on from him. Of course refusal to move on from non-performing personnel has been the real curse of JR all these years. I hope they can get something interesting for him. But teams aren't going to want to trade squat. Just be leery of Rule 5 "prospects."

If he rakes the 2nd half, the tradee will likely pick up his option.

It's all kind of a shame because the team that could really use Robert is the White Sox.

More of this, please!

I think Sosa will hit; he also isn't the FO prototype and I think it's healthy to have a few players who are not the prototype especially for this unproven FO. I hope they keep him (absent, obviously an overpay) I think they'll move him with any decent offer because he isn't the prototype.

Good question. I'm not so sure about those Orioles, but more generally, should the Sox sell Martin, Cannon or Smith for market value. Any player is available for the right price, but at fair value? Martin perhaps, but the others will likely continue to improve. And feel more confident if Schultz and Taylor hadn't hit a hiccup. But the Sox will have to make some moves to get this fixed.

Well that's a problem that the Sox should try to resolve, isn't it? I think the idea is that yes indeed they are both premium catchers. They were both top 100 prospects; is it not unreasonable to believe that they will both be above average starting catchers? As such, here is your choice: 2 on the roster gives us premium catcher coverage 100% of the time. But 1 roster hole 100% of the time. Moving 1 for premium player at another position gives us premium catcher 67%ish of the time (Korey Lee or the like the other 33%) but that roster hole is now completely filled. If they aren't premium catchers then this is all moot. But there is time to find out 1 way or the other.

Certainly no hurry. And at least for this season, he who doesn't catch, is the DH every night.

Thus the idea of trading one of them. Their value is at catcher and Sox can't get full value from both at catcher.

Neither one will probably ever hit well enough for first or dh

For the most part, these players are the product of the White Sox pillar-to-post. (B Montgomery the major exception re drafting). Gives a good idea of where Sox drafting/signing/development stands. Where would this group sit league wide..17-20? I'm also hoping that some of the big pitching (what appear to be) busts like Kelley, Dalquist, Palette can contribute in the pen at some point. While relievers don't help a system ranking much, they sure as heck help the team.

Gavin Floyd had a snazzy curveball. Seems to be that they are a bit risky: too easy to hang and too easy to hit when hung.