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Could the Sox please expand the DFA list to include Noda, Rojas, Slater, Capra. What are we doing here?

Noda? Come on.

Just because Baldwin is not a first baseman. Even if he does well, he still isn’t going to deliver like a first base needs to. Baldwin needs to work in centerfield; ultimately he’s probably a utility guy and perhaps a really good one. I’m not confident that Elko is the answer. But he’s the only first baseman Sox have that’s anywhere close right now. And Sox are in a position to give players real chances. I would give Fletcher and Julks another go over slater et al.

Give Elko the rest of the season. The mix and match options will always be available. Rojas along with Slater et al should be DFAd in the near future (Slater today, really).

Another sucky 1-run loss. Why is Meidroth playing 2nd? He is a plus SS defensively. Slayton, Capra: please DFA this absurdities. We have guys in Charlotte who need another look anyway.

I wonder at which positions the true depth of this draft resides...not just the first 50 picks, but the first 200 or so. The Sox edge is drafting first in rounds 2-20. Use it. If they didn’t a draft corner OF Masher Jac @#5 last year, I can’t see drafting Irish now. Jace might be a good gamble, if they have real insight of his issues and how to fix them. CF is big. I would hope not another pitcher, all things being equal.

Fair enough. Who did I miss? I did take a conservative approach. I’m not counting on any position prospects yet because the promising ones that I see (outside of Colson) are still in A ball. I haven't completely given up on some of the AAA guys, but not counting on them either.

I wonder if Luis Robert isn't a casualty of the new approach. In his 5-WAR year, he only had 30 walks all season. In this, his worst year, he already has 25. The new approach may help Robert in the long-run if he sticks with it....but for the Sox, the run is about 6 weeks. I'm certainly thrilled with the new direction overall.

Kenny Williams made lot of trades that were poor value; a lot of them. But most didn't end up so bad because the prospects he traded away largely ended up doing nothing. He also made some brilliant moves. And then the weird: He trades a top 25 in MLB prospect, our starting catcher and another prospect to rent Freddie Garcia for 2 months....and then extends him and then we win the WS. He trades 5 WAR Carlos Lee for 1 WAR Podsednik and a middle reliever....but darned if it doesn't work. I don't know whether all of his was luck or a great eye for talent or both. ,

This vividly shows how far the “new and improved” White Sox still have to go. What we confidently have going forward is a SS, 3B and 2 Catchers. On the pitching side, several ¾ starters. 1st Base is TBD. Or, put another way, we still need 2 top-of-rotation starters, 4 front-line relievers (we have none on the 26-man, really), a 2B, 3 Outfielders, and possibly a 1st baseman. And, of course, a bench. I’m optimistic that some of the gaps can be filled with guys already in the minors (pitching, 2B perhaps). I think we’ll spend $ when it makes sense to do so (it made no sense to spend in 24 or 25). I’m still leery of the quality of the drafting and when will we get back into the international game?

On only 1 hit.... and 2 BB and 2 HBPs. The math works!

No we don't. But we should move him if there is a "match" - but fodder for Charlotte is not a match

For a real prospect, yes trade. For a Rule 5 guy, the likely offer, keep him.

On one of those Athletic podcasts, ole Eno was trying to make that comparison, but Jed Lowrie, pro infielder turned analyst, was having none of it.

That’s how I see it as well. Sometimes it may be better to just let players alone and be themselves. Robert has a real upside that could reveal itself quickly; if multiple teams are interested, one might pay more than his value. It happens all the time for pitching in July. Regardless, no interest in trading him or anyone else for Rule-5 eligible prospects (there are exceptions, but rare). Giveaways set a bad precedent and the Sox have enough Rule 5 guys. They could use some A ball or DSL lottery tickets, however.

Vasil continues to impress. I think the plan is rotation for next year, although I wonder if the lack of slider or cutter will eventually limit him. Vasil, Smith, Martin, Burke, Cannon would make a strong 3-5 behind 2 aces. There's depth plus each of those guys is at least a 4. I think we're going to need that because getting top 5 or 10 offense is going to be a long trudge. Only a few teams are willing to trade it away; and I'm not sure that the Sox have the skills to identify, draft and develop sufficient talent themselves without trades. I still think that it's time for a more aggressive churn of the 26 man. Palacios is a fine, gregarious fellow, but I think we've seen enough of his game. Rojas, et al.

I just wonder how they really measure those things. There’s no combine where they could formally measure. The SEC has more top-level pitching than the other leagues, but it has a lot of terrible pitching as well. A league like Cape Cod, with more concentrated talent, might provide the best insight.

The Sox need to make them pay for moving Skubal back to face the Cubs. Mocking us. We beat their bullpen team, but that’s not enough. 2 more Ws.

Also Sheets and Carlos Rodon; it's hit or miss though. The best part will be to move these guys for more lasting help…although I suppose the could hold tauchman to play CF for a year and build some real value versus the “Pham value” he probably has now.

Or trade down (go underslot); I'm not sure they can do that effectively though. The trouble with the SS is that the good hitters seem to hit well "for a shortstop." So yea, they can play anywhere but they don't have the corner hit-tool to bring with them. I'm just going by the write-ups and descriptions; perhaps some of these guys really can hit. So Jo Jo can really hit; but he won't end up at SS. So it's unclear whether he can really hit for a SS or if he can really hit for, say, a RF.

I read that as "we'll take Robert's salary off of your hands only if you throw in Sosa." Yikes!

I hope Vargas can get back on track because we seem to be capped at 2 runs without him. Robert pulling a Lazarus would help too.

Pierce seems like someone who should be drafted around #20; so he's a reach unless they can go c. $2 mill underslot, which l seriously doubt they can pull off. h this draft seems bereft of hit-tool, so I can see why Irish would rise. If the Sox are going to go a little under slot, go with Jace: a risk with real upside.

I wanted them to pick Jac (I was a late convert), but my number 1 wish was to not pick Smith. I was surprised when Smith was picked. Hope it all works out,

Would seem so for #10 money. But he would fit if you pay #20 money, which will leave room to go overslot in several rounds, without punting.