GreenSox

FFS This would be so par for the course.

It makes a lot of difference.

You're probably right about that. Mets got really hot (and they're not the perfect team either). Damn Tigers are going to be hard to take down.

The Phillies remind me of the White Sox teams of 83, 21 (and 93 to a lesser extent); something was missing and you could feel it all season. In the Sox case, not the most athletic teams and the bullpens weren't always first rate.

The Royals did it off of their 50-something wins. They have one great position player. Perez had a solid rebound. A couple of other decent hitters. And that's it. It will be imperative to get a manager on board who is a)a good manager and b) has an excellent reputation. No clowns from the Pirates or anything.

They didn't do squat with their high draft picks anyway. Robert rebounds, Montgomery is the real deal. 1/2 of Fletcher, Ramos, Sosa, Lee, Vargas, DeLoach, Elko turns into average players. That's a start.

What are they going to do with him? Trade him for pennies on the dollar? Better off praying he rebounds.

I don’t know. I don’t think it’s gonna be that hard. Get three or four really good position players, surrounded by average players and make sure the pitching is sound; that gives you a chance. The thing is the White Sox head zero average players this year. Not one. Oh maybe Benitendi if you really stretch the definition.

Crochet obviously. Wilson, I guess. Maybe DLS and Foster. That’s it.

Zaidi seemed to be ultra-conservative to me; he just didn't seemed to get involved in the trades and FAs like the Dodgers, Padres and even the D Backs did. His former #2 is doing okay in Detroit, though. Posey will be interesting. Refreshing to have a baseball guy in charge.

I like Sizemore, but no. But we could do worse. Mattingly is a little to retreadish for my tastes. I like the Dodgers guy.

Can you do a thorough interview of a managerial candidate, when he’s coaching his team in the playoffs? I’m really not interested in the Sox hiring the bench coach of the Reds. The guy for the Dodgers sounded pretty good to me. Hope they give him a long look which may require the playoffs to be over.

Well, 2-4 war hitters are the bread and butter of most of the playoff teams. Right now we don’t have any, so get a few of those. . And by young hitters, I mean close to the majors prospects. And if that’s the way, the market is, stop drafting pitchers in the early rounds.

They need to trade him. It has nothing to do with cheapness and all of that. They need young hitters. Now if Getz really needs to step up with the trade execution. if necessary, deal with the 2nd and 3rd rate GMs (he was no match for the first-rate guys, although Anthropoulos was at least honest with him and didn't try to take advantage).

1 more win and its the '62 Mets, not the Sox, with the worst record in Modern history.

Flexen was signed to be the 5th starter on a bad team. Ends with a 4.95 ERA. Have to say that he did his job.

Yes, the pitching is just bad. The offense is what is historically awful. The OPS of the 29th offense is closer to number 13 then we are to number 29.

Screw that. I want the Sox to sweep the angels and then sweep the tigers right out of the playoffs.

I wonder who the AL coach is who was told not to get his hopes up. Re the Sizemore thing I suspect that it’s just being respectful for a person who took on a tough assignment. I like the guy. I hope he stays in the organization. Getz effed up a couple of trades really badly. One solution for that may be to trade only with second and third tier general managers. but it does seem like he’s trying to get some good people into the organization.

Anderson again. This don’t give themselves a chance.

I guess that the Santos trade is his Magnum Opus, such as it is; of course, that's the one that was most popular among the posters (I wasn't as enthusiastic as most, but they were right). For Crochet, please avoid the vulture GMs.....and don't eff it up.

He's also ranked #54 in framing. Now part of that is probably the umps not giving Sox pitchers the benefit of the doubt, because the team is so bad. But Sox pitchers consistently get pinched. And .562 OPS is just not something a great arm and release can overcome. I realize he's nowhere close to the biggest problem, but so far, he's no solution either.

Well, the Sox have a lot of young pitchers; they pen should be better and they can fill out a staff. I should probably revise that prediction and say 20th. But the offense is why they are historically bad. Measured by OPS, the #29 team is closer to #15, than the #30 (Sox) is to #29. That is qn unbelievable gap.

So is Korey Lee. Good gracious, he's been terrible with the bat. Sox should have league-average pitching next season. But they have nothing on offense. Of course the offense is why they are record-setting bad this season. 6-6 avoids the record. Take 4/6 from the Angels (they are bad and the Sox should be trying harder than them) and 1 each from the Padres and Tigers, and on to next season.

OPS .760.