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I’m not all that broken up about the tigers’ collapse.

Another one of these? FFS

Perez was a bit risky as he hadn’t been good since 2022. In the end, he had a good year, but injury. Houser was a no-risk signee; pitched well. Then Getz basically gave him away (maybe one of those rule 5 eligible pitchers will do something). Civale, acquired for nothing that the Sox were using, had an “innings-eater” type of 2025 with the Sox and they either couldn’t or wouldn’t flip him. All 3 ended up meeting or exceeding reasonable expectations. But the Sox have zilch to show for it. Can’t squander 3/3.

It would help if the Sox would stop trading for declining prospects and use the July trading period for positive end. The #3 TB prospect pitching against the Barons was #26 for Seattle a year ago; their #6 prospect, part of the same Randy A trade, was Seattle #14 a year ago. Trading for decliners is lazy. And one thing Getz shouldn't be is lazy. He should be all over the other teams' systems, including his buddies in Tampa.

I doubt they did. He's who Tampa wanted to trade, so Okay. They're good buddies; they wouldn't steer him wrong. But it's time to cut your losses Getz. Actually the time was about a week after the trade. And Venable isn't helping either using him as a PH Re Lee in the OF, even if he can play it decently, does he have the bat for LF? And teams are going to be on Getz seeking Quero and to a lesser extent Lee. They'll start with Teel, knowing Getz won't trade him, but bargaining down to Quero. They'll offer their most appealing org guys.

Nice W. Was worried that we might enter the offseason on a 15 game slide.

0-6 v Baltimore. 6 game losing streak. Things are crumbling from a crumble.

True, but rare is the player who can do that or make anything positive out of either .200 or 30%Ks , much less both.

I just don't understand why the 30+ year old riff-raff is continuing to play this late in the season. Oh yea, bring in Taylor to pinch hit; Tyler Alexander to the mound. None of that is serious effort. A laugh a minute.

If he's hitting .200 with 30% Ks, he won't be successful.

Needed a bit more offense tonight.

I agree about Vasil. But who's better? There are some that could be, but not yet. And then there is growing pile of 20s decade high round pitchers who, if they make it, will be in the pen.

In college, he struck out guys on balls out of the zone and he didn’t go past six innings. His delivery wasn’t smooth. hopefully Schultz is a good major leaguer, but he hasn’t had a great year either. The best pitchers on the 26-man are the 2 rule-5 guys and they may be the 2 best in the entire organization.

Ramos has had 119 major league plate appearances and turned 23 this year. Seems a bit premature to dump him. Also, he's only been up for 2 seasons; shouldn't he have an option?

Nice work. Next up, end the Guardian's hopes of playoffs.

Not near enough for someone with his talent. It's worth the risk to get him right. Although just the fact that the Sox brass took him out of the rotation gives me pause. Other than Crochet (who was really a Hahn guy draft for the pen), the pitching draftees have stumbled.

He was traded/sold. The Rays wanted Gray, not Rojas.

Houser's counterpart Mead may have 0/4, but at least he didn't strike out....that's a plus, I guess.

Anti-Century Magic Number is 8. Sox should make good progress in this series. Tampa should be good and demoralized after last weekend's debacle.

I would think the Sox could improve on movement and base-stealing (but for Robert, the Sox would be last in the league). They don't seem that unathletic to me (other than a couple of vets). Brewers lead the league in steals and caught stealing. Their c .75% success percentage is bottom 1/3; but I guess they've done the math and figured it still yields a positive expected outome. Sox are just a tad under 80% (Robert's a tad > 80% so it's not him pulling everyone up). Venable's right-hand man is a long-time Brewer, so it's surprising that the Sox haven't run more. Now maybe it will come when the Sox get more youthful in the other OF spots.

And I agree that Detroit was built through the draft. But I question the tanking part. Only Mize, Greene, and Torkelson, among their first round picks, have done much of anything and only Greene is a difference maker. Yes, it's better to draft 1st than 2nd; 2nd than 3rd and so forth. I just think there's a lot of uncertainty in MLB draft and prospects; much more than NBA and NFL. Need lines in the water; spins of the wheel; thus I don't like punting in drafts; like a little quantity in prospect trades, even at the expense of, say, a top 20 prospect.

Thanks for the post: well-researched, reasoned and full of information I certainly like the changed org approach toward taking the walks. But I wonder if it's for everyone. Robert has a near 10% walk rate this year (way high for him) but has had a poor year overall. (His absence the last few weeks may be a reason the team walk rate is down,) Sosa is an ever improving hitter, but his walk rate is way low. He certainly needs to improve his OBP to be a complete hitter, and that will require more walks; but you don't want to completely mute his aggression. He also has a very reasonable K rate, and more looking-Ks is often a result of looking for more walks. I also like the idea of a couple of hitters in the lineup being "Against the grain" -- not OBP guys.

I don't see how tanking helped the Tigers much. Riley Greene is good, but even he's not elite. Their elite pitcher was drafted in the 9th round. Tanking gives one top pick a year. And even then, most years don't have a slam-dunk/annual all-star prospect. Even if you draft 30th it's like you lost your 1st round pick, but you draft first in rounds 2-20. The Sox didn't start losing intentionally. The players turned sour and they didn't have a group of young players to replace them. Unless you are a big spender, you need youth. While the Crochet trade could be considered tanking, it's a trade frankly I hope the Sox have the guts to make if they are good and the farm isn't...because they won't be good for long if they don't have a constant inflow of youth.

I'll take Williams out of those 2. Helsley has just been miserable this year. Doesn't mean he will be next year, but when you're this bad, I think trade offers are likely to be tepid next July.