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God...

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 19, 2007 -> 10:55 PM) Right now out of 7 slots the Sox have 2 filled, the closer and LOOGY roles are pretty reliable. I don't see how a team can be expected to go 66-29 to finish out the season when 5/7 of the pen is filled with dog s***. This resurgence bulls*** is just f***ing retarded. Damn. I think that I just figured out your avatar. Matt Thornton's Damaso Marte.

Screw Matt Thornton in his ear.

Uggggghhhla.

I'm surprised that you haven't rephrased your question to, "Why do you suck so much Gavin?", Pratt.

QUOTE(goblue5699 @ Jun 19, 2007 -> 09:41 PM) Ozzie Guillen is to Jerry Manuel as Jon Garland is to John Danks. I missed that question on the SAT. Damn.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 19, 2007 -> 01:22 PM) Why does this sound so familiar to me? Sounds a lot like the BMac saga, doesn't it?

Not platoon in the literal sense. Just share playing time. I'm sure Dunn could be put in RF in a pinch if needed.

QUOTE(dasox24 @ Jun 19, 2007 -> 07:31 PM) Well, at least no one would mess with our team if we had those two around Ozzie could MC UFC fights in the dugout on days off, then.

My predictions: Contreras and Dye are dealt out West to an NL team or two for a young OF or SP and mlb-ready bullpen help. Dunn gets acquired from Cincy for LF, Tererro moves to RF, while Pods and Erstad platoon in center (ugh, I know). Mackowiak and Cintron get shipped to someone and Richar replaces Cintron as a backup MI. MacDougal gets sent out for a minor spect and whoever comes back for Contreras/Dye will replace him in the BP.

Send LA Vazquez or Contreras for God's sake! Re-sign Buehrle!

Awful nice of Florida to send their ace out there versus our #5 starter. Danks 3-6, 4.34 Willis 7-6, 4.58 But, it could be a close game if Danks can pitch seven and keep his pitch count down early.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jun 19, 2007 -> 03:32 AM) It's a rough draft. Please help me out and fill some holes. I was trying to think of less expensive good value guys to enable the Sox to retain the services of Buehrle and also get Ichiro. Please help. I say we raid Japan, Cuba and Mexico for relievers in the offseason.

Oh did I forget ERA? 1. Pedro Martinez (35) 2.806 R 2. Greg Maddux (41) 3.084 R 3. Roy Oswalt (29) 3.087 R 4. Roger Clemens (44) 3.104 R 5. Johan Santana* (28) 3.196 L 6. Randy Johnson* (43) 3.219 L 7. John Smoltz (40) 3.262 R 8. Kevin Brown (42) 3.275 R 9. Roberto Hernandez (42) 3.369 R 10. Carlos Zambrano (26) 3.401 R 11. Curt Schilling (40) 3.448 R 12. Tom Glavine* (41) 3.487 L 13. Tim Hudson (31) 3.516 R 14. Bob Wickman (38) 3.569 R 15. Mike Timlin (41) 3.571 R 16. Barry Zito* (29) 3.596 L 17. Mike Mussina (38) 3.659 R 18. Roy Halladay (30) 3.660 R 19. Kerry Wood (30) 3.676 R 20. Matt Morris (32) 3.755 R Rank Player (age) ERA Throws 21. Derek Lowe (34) 3.760 R 22. Andy Pettitte* (35) 3.781 L 23. A.J. Burnett (30) 3.786 R 24. Ben Sheets (28) 3.790 R 25. Al Leiter* (41) 3.802 L 26. Mark Buehrle* (28) 3.804 L Take out last year's aberration, he's top 12.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jun 19, 2007 -> 03:19 AM) Well, let him walk. I don't believe in giving pitchers not of elite caliber huge deals. Also, I should add that I have a feeling that if Buehrle isn't traded, come free agency, Buehrle will turn down the White Sox offer to him and sign a similar contract with the Cardinals, and he will be forever hated afterwards. You do realize that Buehrle and Garland are two of the youngest mlb pitchers right now with the most career wins, right? http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/W_active.shtml 15. Tim Wakefield (40) 158 R 16. Brad Radke (34) 148 R 17. Bartolo Colon (34) 146 R Aaron Sele (37) 146 R 19. Scott Erickson (39) 142 R 20. Steve Trachsel (36) 139 R Rank Player (age) Wins Throws 21. Mike Hampton* (34) 138 L 22. Tom Gordon (39) 131 R 23. Kirk Rueter* (36) 130 L 24. Pedro Astacio (37) 129 R Jon Lieber (37) 129 R 26. Livan Hernandez (32) 128 R Jason Schmidt (34) 128 R 28. Woody Williams (40) 127 R 29. Kevin Millwood (32) 126 R 30. Tim Hudson (31) 125 R 31. Terry Mulholland* (44) 124 L 32. Esteban Loaiza (35) 123 R Hideo Nomo (38) 123 R 34. Jeff Fassero* (44) 121 L 35. Matt Morris (32) 118 R 36. Freddy Garcia (32) 117 R 37. Chan Ho Park (34) 113 R Jeff Suppan (32) 113 R 39. Russ Ortiz (33) 110 R 40. Barry Zito* (29) 108 L Rank Player (age) Wins Throws 41. Derek Lowe (34) 107 R 42. Roy Oswalt (29) 105 R 43. Ismael Valdez (33) 104 R 44. Mark Mulder* (29) 103 L Javier Vazquez (30) 103 R 46. Wilson Alvarez* (37) 102 L Roy Halladay (30) 102 R 48. Mark Buehrle* (28) 101 L 49. Chris Carpenter (32) 100 R 50. Shawn Estes* (34) 99 L 51. Rick Helling (36) 93 R 52. Kelvim Escobar (31) 91 R Darren Oliver* (36) 91 L 54. C.C. Sabathia* (26) 90 L Brett Tomko (34) 90 R 56. Jose Lima (34) 89 R 57. Paul Byrd (36) 88 R Jarrod Washburn* (32) 88 L 59. Matt Clement (32) 87 R Eric Milton* (31) 87 L Rank Player (age) Wins Throws 61. Cal Eldred (39) 86 R Jon Garland (27) 86 R

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jun 19, 2007 -> 03:09 AM) I would give him 3 years guaranteed and two options that could become guaranteed if he reached a certain amount of goals. It doesn't work like that. His agent would politely decline and they would file for free agency. He either gets 5 years, or he walks. Simple as that.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jun 19, 2007 -> 01:59 AM) If he wants a five year contract, give it to him. Absolutely.

Yep. He's screwed.

The Yanks would be an excellent fit, at 1st base.

Sure. Can't be any worse than what we have now. Who'd they want... Haeger?

What's the third? San Antonio?

Hinrich can go if we get Kobe. He's not quick enough to stay an NBA point guard anyway. Sign a free agent point guard or draft another in the second round.

Contreras has to prove that his last outing was an aberration instead of part of a trend. First start back from injury for Josh Johnson. I'd like to say something positive about that in the Sox's favor, but it seems like a lot of "first start" guys have really had the Sox's number this season. Ah well. Anyways...

You're right. NotBob