Jordan4life_2007

Question for those that continue to bash Taveras, Figgins or any other REALISTIC option (I'll go out on a limb and assume we won't be adding Grady Sizemore or Jose Reyes) to plug into the leadoff spot: are you content with going into ST with Jerry Owens or maybe even Getz as the guy? Are we going to have 54857457275 posts on how KW should be fired if that's what happens? I mean, you can't have it both ways. Kennyprospects is atleast breakin' down REALISTIC (there's that word again) options and examining the pros and cons.

QUOTE (jenks45monster @ Nov 28, 2008 -> 11:27 AM) If we were able to get rid of Thome, I wouldn't mind a Dye for Joey Votto deal. OKKKKKKK!

QUOTE (Felix @ Nov 28, 2008 -> 10:21 AM) Seriesly?? J4L was owned.

Anybody from the club go bonkers today? This is the first turkey day in years that I didn't go full blown Oprah. I had a nice serving size of turkey and mashed potatoes (added a little gravy to both). Mixed in a couple small dinner rolls with some greens (gotta eat atleast one veggie with every meal) and cranberry sauce. For dessert I had a piece of home-made blueberry pie. I had to say no to the mac n cheese and stuffing. Although I did workout from 9-2, so it probably wouldn't have been a big deal. But I was more than satisfied, and most importantly full, with what I ate.

Word is Brian Fuentes is looking for 3 years at more than 11 million per year. Yes, Brian Fuentes. So you could imagine what K-Rod is going to command. I expect talks between the Mets/Sox regarding Jenks to 'legitimately' heat up in the coming days.

QUOTE (MAX @ Nov 27, 2008 -> 04:19 PM) Sounds like someone we already have on our team - BA. Accept Dickerson has already shown that he can run with the big boys (although it was only 102 at bats).

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 27, 2008 -> 03:21 PM) Chris Dickerson is super toolsy, more of an athlete then a ballplayer, but he still has the ability to succeed on the Major League Level. The main concern is his age, he has not developed as quickly as the Reds would have liked. It’s a very real possibility that he’s just a late-bloomer. In that case, Bailey + Dickerson for Dye is more than acceptable. More than acceptable? Kenny would face rape charges if he could pull this off.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Nov 27, 2008 -> 03:21 PM) That remains to be seen. Dye could very well be the best power-hitting option on the market right now, at least until the Brewers officially make Prince available. Who is going to want to go 4 years Burrell, Abreu, Dunn, and Manny in this economic climate when teams are looking to slash? There will be small and mid-market teams that will much rather have Dye at 2 years and $23.5M total, it just depends on how much they are willing to pay. And Bailey, his stock must have dropped a ton for the Reds to even be considering dealing him. Just because he was once of the best pitching prospects in the game doesn't mean there aren't guys out there who the Sox like better. On paper it's a good return, but we don't know what the Reds know. I hope you're right. I just don't see it happening. Not both guys, anyway. And I don't buy the myth that Bailey's stock has dropped that much. The dude is frickin' 22 years old. He's got about 80 total major league innings under his belt. You don't give up on talent like that under those circumstances. But with the emergence of guys like Volquez and Cueto, combined with solid guys like Harang (who should have a bounce back year next year) and Arroyo, they've got a pretty solid rotation. Therefore they can afford to shop Bailey and see what the market is. I'm not one that overvalues our own players. Dye has had a wonderful 4-year run here. But those years don't matter. It's what you're going to get from him from this point on. I would assume he has another good year left in him. Maybe two. Is that enough to give up Bailey AND Dickerson? If Kenny can pull it off, he automatically jumps into the top 3 GM in all of baseball category.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Nov 27, 2008 -> 01:02 PM) reading a reds board, they seem to really want Dye. The best trade idea I saw was Bailey and Dickerson for Dye. I like Dickerson, but I'd like him a whole lot more if he didn't K so much. As for Bailey, I'm still not excited about him. His number in the minors were never even all that impressive, IMO. If they threw in one more decent player/prospect, I'd be all for such a trade. Have you even looked at them? They were more than impressive in '06 and '07. Only this past year can you say they were off. And they weren't even that bad. You're sniffin' glue if you think we're gettin' Dickerson along with a stud like Bailey for Dye.

QUOTE (rangercal @ Nov 26, 2008 -> 04:44 PM) well s***. Is this still happening? I highly doubt it. It's too good to be true.

QUOTE (Jimmywins1 @ Nov 26, 2008 -> 03:02 PM) In Bailey's AAA playoff start, he pitched 6 innings w/ 2 hits, 1 walk, and 8 K's. A scout there said he was throwing 93-96 in the 6th inning and that he had the best slider he'd seen all season. I think it's fair to say that the groin injury and the sprain he suffered this season were at least contributors to his drop off. Thanks for that bit of information. I had been looking all over and couldn't find anything about this sudden loss of velocity.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Nov 25, 2008 -> 10:43 PM) In case anyone is interested, here are some Reds fans' takes on the possible deal. I read through some of it and it seems like they'd welcome the deal. Personally I don't know how I'd feel about it. If Kenny and his people think they can make whatever changes are necessary to turn Bailey around then I'd back it. I wonder who the other player is though? Freel would be a good guess. He makes $4M next year and is a FA after that. Part of me would like the idea, part of me would hate it. Freel has had injury issues and appears to have some alcohol issues too. Then again, if he could stay healthy and put up a nice year at 2B or in CF, he could end up a Type A given his good year in '08 (albeit in limited playing time). Getting a future top of the rotation starter in Bailey and Type A comp in '10 for Dye would be an amazing steal for the Sox, but then again we could also be talking about a major bust in Bailey who s***s the bed in the Majors and 1/4 of a season from an overrated alcoholic utility player. Lots of risk here on both ends. Doesn't look that way to me. Most of the posts I read seem totally against trading a 22- year old pitcher with the talent/upside of Bailey for a 35-year old ( though a very good one) that they would more than likely have for one year. I don't blame them. Bailey has a total of, what, 80 innings in the majors under his belt? He's got PLENTY of time to get things figured out. If Kenny could pull this off I'd, well, I don't know what the hell I'd do. I'd be overjoyed. Edit: After reading some more it seems that they have no problem trading Bailey, just not for Dye. It's amazing how impatient some fans are. The guy was the #9 ranked prospect in all of baseball just a year ago. Now he's hot garbage after 50 innings or so. I'm so glad fans have absolutely nothing to do with how a team is constructed. Go get 'em, Kenny!

QUOTE (bighurt4life @ Nov 25, 2008 -> 08:37 PM) Wasn't he our best pitcher for the entire month of August??? Also he has a 127-129 career W-L with 6 of those seasons being on very bad Expos teams. he's 48-46 since he joined the Sox. So I wouldn't go so far as to say that he's a proven loser. He's just someone who doesn't exactly step up in big games. Javy shines when the stakes are lowest. His best season with the Sox by far and away came in 2007, when we were out of it by June. The best season of his career came in 2003 when the Expos were out of it, I don't know, two weeks into the season. I'm sick of Javy's tired act. I think Ozzie is sick of him. I think Kenny is as well. But he obviously has to act like he really believes Javy's the s*** to get somebody to bite on a trade. And what's the difference in a proven loser and a guy, as you say, doesn't step up in big games? Sounds like the same thing to me.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Nov 25, 2008 -> 08:14 PM) As horrible as it looks right now, when a guy has stuff there's that occasional case where a guy comes out, adds one thing to his arsenal and totally turns around a career. It happened with a far lesser talent on the Indians this very year. I mean, that guy had previously fallen a lot farther than Javy ever has. If we're really honest, would a trading team be taking a huge CHANCE or RISK on Javy? Not really, because even his low is still some level of dependability, and they're not locked in for tons of years. Yes, he's a dependable loser. I don't think any team is taking a huge chance or risk as you say. There's no mystery whatsoever regarding Javy. He's going to get you innings and strikeout a lot of guys. And he's also going to be wildly inconsistent and go dookie in his pants whenever he's faced with a legitimate challenge. I don't see us getting some ridiculous package, such as I'm sure Kenny is asking, for a proven loser who's overpaid. Doesn't help that the guy refuses to go to a west coast team, either. I hate when average dudes got that kinda power. That kinda pull should be reserved for star players only.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 25, 2008 -> 01:29 PM) Seriously though, who the hell said this kid was overweight, I have been searching all over the internet for pics and not one of them shows him looking heavy. You ain't never lyin'. Folks actin' like he's Mo Vaughn and s***. I'm not worried about his weight at all.

I'd do this trade in a heartbeat. Bailey is a serious talent. I don't care what the numbers say.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Nov 25, 2008 -> 03:44 PM) This part makes me wonder: In what world is Andy Sonnanstine a more desirable target than Javy Vazquez? Am I the only one who can't understand why teams like this guy? He throws strikes with his junk and changes speeds on it. I'd rather not give up any talent and sign Paul Byrd, who BTW looks like a cross between Kelsey Grammer and a turkey. Dude, the word has long been out on Javy. He's a loser. End of story. He'll take the ball every fifth day and look filthy at times, but when it's time to man up, well, we all know. The Mets are trying to overcome two consecutive chokes. Javy's not the guy you sign to do that. I personally think we're stuck with him.

QUOTE (SnB @ Nov 24, 2008 -> 07:52 PM) kw has wanted perez forever it seems like. That was like 4 or 5 years ago. I don't buy this at all. To sign Perez is to say you have no faith whatsoever in guys like Richard and Poreda. I think they'd give Broadway a shot before actually bringing this bum in.

That's the way I look at it. If all fails on the trade front, will still retain one of the best closers in the game, an all-star caliber rf, and a starter that I despise (but he does take the ball every 5th day, for better or worse. And can be dominant when he's on). There's no desperate need or hurry from our side to trade these guys. It's the other teams, such as the Mets, that are in desperate need of pitching help, ect. Like the end of the article says: You want 'em? Better pony up.

Well, hell week #2 is complete. I worked out a combined 31 hours last week. I'm runnin' on fumes right now. I had planned on working out today but decided it'd be wise to take a full day off. I'm gettin' right back at it tomorrow. My diet is going really well. I've been eating plenty of salad, fruit and veggies. I think that's part of the reason I'm able to work out so much without passing out. All of my meals are very nutritious and balanced. I feel pretty damn good.

QUOTE (Rex Hudler @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 04:43 PM) Jordan, here is a little thing I picked off a website I get daily tidbits from. I would definitely make sure you are getting enough calories (I think sometimes I am (guilty of not getting enough) and this is the exact reason I suggest cheat meals periodiccally. You have to make sure you don't allow your metabolism to adapt to what you are doing. I'm not sure how heavy you are, but I would suggest a minimum of 1500-1700 calories a day. With the workouts you are doing, in all honesty you probably need 2000-2250/day. Otherwise you are really going to eat into your lean muscle tissue and your body can break down due to fatigue, renedering your workouts much less effective. FRIDAY: IT'S YOUR BODY, BABY Are You Eating Enough? I know this isn't what you're used to hearing this time of year, but it's important to make sure everyone's got it straight. You're all trying not to go over your allotted calorie amounts for the week, but how many of you aren't eating enough calories? It may seem like a bright idea to cut a hundred or so calories from your diet each day, but that's a dangerous — and incorrect — assessment of your dietary needs. It is absolutely 100 percent essential to eat enough calories! If you don't, it will destroy your metabolism. It's like telling your body that you're starving. If your body thinks it's starving, your metabolism will shut down. Not eating enough calories will also force the body to cannibalize muscle and hold on to fat. The body considers muscle to be expendable during periods of starvation, and it considers fat to be necessary to insulate your organs for survival. Finally, a deficit of daily calories will lead to a horrible cycle of yo-yo dieti ng. You'll starve yourself and end up losing muscle, and when you begin to eat the right amount of calories, your body will pack on the pounds in anticipation of another "famine." You're absolutely right@Rex. Ever since I started this extreme workout program my appetite has gone way up. I had been pretty much getting by on cereal, salad, tuna and baked chicken. I've expanded a little since then. So I'm getting just enough calories.

QUOTE (Rex Hudler @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 05:41 AM) Jordan, just remember that while doing an extreme plan may work, it will increase the likelihood the weight will come back once your lifestyle changes. I understand where you are coming from, I would just warn you to mix in a little normalcy so that you can better transition to be able to maintain your new weight. Aside from that, keep up the good work. I hope you get where you want to be. I understand that. That's why I don't really plan on changing anything once I do get all this weight off. It actually feels good to eat healthy and feel healthy. I want this to be a lifestyle thing. Not something that's temporary. I had consumed so much beer in the last year that it made me lazy and hungry all the time (I can't even count how many times I would go get Mcdonalds or Burger King at 2 in the morning, scarf, then pass out). I ain't ever goin' back to that. And thanks for the support. Amazing. Keep it up. What's your goal weight by the way?

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 10:27 PM) In my eyes- He either stays with the team or hits the minors, if Fields sucks which he will, then he'll be our 3B. Sweet! Don't understand the bolded part at all.

Even if the kid turns out to be a bust (I don't think he will), it will have been more than worth the risk. This kid's upside is mammoth. I'm extremely pleased with the direction this team is heading. Save for 2006, I don't think I've ever been as excited for spring training as I am going into next year. Kudos to KW!

Patience was and will continue to be the key. Kenny and the rest of the organization knew a couple years ago that the farm was, well, TERRIBLE. They admitted it and have taken the necessary steps to correct it. I like what I'm seeing so far.