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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 07:36 AM) That would be a very large discount given to us by Crawford. Yeah, Crawford will most likely get north of 6/$132 million. Especially after the ridiculous Werth signing.

The rumors still exist of a 7-year offer for Cliff Lee, but the known teams gunning for him deny such an offer. I would think that one or more of those teams are not being truthful, but I wonder if there's a mystery team out there that has made a 7-year offer. And if so, who could it be?

$10 million for Pena doesn't really surprise me, but I'm certainly glad it wasn't the Sox making that deal. Good power with little contact. Who knows, he might have a decent year, but if he does he'll be even more expensive next year. I'm beginning to think D. Lee is a better option than PK. Cheaper and he's probably a guy that really wants to prove something. Plus, from everything I've heard he's a classy guy. Him at 1st most of the time with Dunn DHing. I like that. And it would free up $4 million plus for a bullpen arm. I'll welcome Paulie back if that's what happens, but I really want to see a resolution of this today.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 06:30 PM) Cubs are trying to acquire Chris Davis and D. O'Day. O'Day is a big time reliever, so be interesting to see what they give up for him. When I first glanced at this post I thought it said Chili Davis.

Does D. Lee have a cool nickname we can tie into Dunn's? Donkey Kong (if Konerko re-signs) writes itself. Come on creative minds...

Whatever comes of the PK drama, I hope the winter meetings end with the Sox having signed/acquired someone to answer the questions.

QUOTE (StateStSports @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 11:09 AM) Ken Rosenthal says Sox are in the mix for Kerry Wood. I'd be okay with that. What kind of money is he expected to get?

QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 11:10 AM) I'd say to no to Paul for $15 million. As much as I like Konerko, he is coming off a great year and he his getting older. I expect him to start to decline. I have never been in the clubhouse, but I also wonder if his habit of being hard on himself makes the rest of the team tight when there is a slump or losing streak. D. Lee for half as much is sounding better to me. If Konerko comes back, I'll be one of the out of tune dudes chanting Paully Paully! But for $15 per, the team may be more successful going a different direction. Did that $15 mil rumor come from Crowley? If so, Paully is probably already signed for $12 mil. lol That's a good point.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 11:06 AM) If not he'll be forced to take his price down. Supply and demand folks. True. But he might take his price down too late to be in a Sox jersey next year. Which might be okay for both parties.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 11:05 AM) Paulie has every right to make a power play here, it doesn't mean we have play it with him. I say we set a price, a deadline, and bide our time. He certainly does have that right. But, one scenario could be that the Sox sign someone else (Lee) and PK ends up having to sign elsewhere (DBacks, Rangers) for what the Sox would have paid him anyway.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 11:04 AM) Oh please. He's looking out for him and his family. Other teams would pay him that much. I don't know. That's a ton of money. Maybe Baltimore, but I can't see any other team offering that much.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 11:00 AM) Cowley saying PK is asking for $15M per year. So he wants more than Dunn? Is there a team that will pay him 2/$40 or 3/$45?

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 11:01 AM) If thats the case, see ya Paulie and thanks for the memories. Give D.Lee a call.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 10:49 AM) If Konerko does indeed re-sign. Over/Under 120 hrs for our 3-6? I'll take the over. It could feasibly be like this: Rios - 25 Dunn - 40 Konerko - 35 Quentin - 30 We'll have to see how PK is. 35 might be a bit high. And who knows about Quentin...depends on which Quentin shows up next year. But, I would think 120+ is a safe bet.

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 10:19 AM) it's common with a lot of players, every now and then you'll hear the announcers mention that a players family is in town when it's a home game. I think it's more common than some may think. As far as PK, I thought it was pretty well known that his family was in AZ.

QUOTE (quickman @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 08:30 AM) My understanding is the Dbacks did make an offer and its for a couple of million less but its for three years. The Rangers have been involved and are in the ball park but its not been a priority and they have not added a third year. Just what I understand. My take is a deal will be done today eitherway. I hope so, one way or the other. I'd love to see Paulie back, but I don't want to see the Sox overpay or go for a contract that is too long. If PK signs elsewhere it'll be interesting to see what KW's plans B and C are. I would imagine DLee is one of them, but he may have something else up his sleeve that gets someone for another position and leaves 1st open for Viciedo.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 08:12 AM) If you weigh his defense into the equation, he's a very valuable player. He's absolutely phenomenal defensively. His offense took a big hit because of park factors. You saw how much better he hit last year when he was back playing in a normal park. I'm pretty sure he would do very well offensively in the Cell. Combine that with his defense at third, which is probably better than Crede's was, and I don't think that contract would hurt you at all. You could then put a guy like Viciedo at 1B or even start working out Q there. That's an interesting thought. Who knows, he might be okay there.

QUOTE (quickman @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 08:16 AM) Nicely said, What i am hearing is the Dbacks and whitesox are very close on the money side of things. Konerko is truly thinking about this because He can spend three years at home with his wife and kids as they are in the growing age stage. Three years at home with your family around for about the same money (Dbacks offering a touch less) or three years on the road with your only team and a chance to win the division. Thats why this is taking another day. I could see that being the case, but I thought the DBacks were a long shot and the Rangers were actually the other serious contender.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 07:09 AM) #rangers, focused on cliff lee, "not likely'' to get konerko. paul's friend says "no way'' on #orioles. #chisox in drivers seat - Jon Heyman What a great way to start the day. Sounds like the only other team seriously contending for PK (Rangers) is focusing elsewhere. It's up to Paulie now. I wouldn't be too upset with the three year deal, but I'd prefer seeing 2 years with an option.

I hope something happens today. I would imagine resolving the PK issue one way or the other will start a domino effect. The Sox still need to make a few moves in order to get bullpen help. I just wonder if a trade or two will be worked out or KW will aim for a FA.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 11:56 PM) SI_JonHeyman #chisox, konerko talks appear to be going well.he'll likely get $12.5 mil a year, maybe 3 yrs. #rangers, #orioles other options. That's a little more than I thought he would get...from the Sox anyway. But, I suppose 2/$25 million isn't too bad. I would expect a little more salary to be moved, however, especially to get more bullpen help.

QUOTE (Pale Sox @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 03:08 PM) I'll consider it a blessing the Red Sox won out. I agree.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 02:08 PM) Both Merkin and Reifort spinning stories how Kenny and Ozzie are 'rebuilding' their relationship. Ozzie has been quoted saying that last year was so bad, he didn't enjoy any of the wins, even the 25-5 run. KW rebuilt it by signing Dunn and hopefully re-signing Konerko. Then there can't be any arguing over the DH spot.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 02:08 PM) Like that guy in Office Space with the stapler. I think you have my bat. Could I please have my bat back?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 11:35 AM) Ichiro is one guy that you really don't care how much he's paid, because, just thanks to the added interest and viewership and ad sales in Japan, you make up most of the money. It's nearly $20 million, but it's a $20 million check and an extra $25 million in revenue. An outfield of Pierre, Rios, and Ichiro? Sure, why not.