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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 12:35 PM) http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AkuX...o&type=lgns White Sox NOT included in the list of potential suitors in this particular article. Yeah but at the same time when was the last time KW made a blockbuster deal with us knowing there was a possibility of it happening? * Rowand for Thome caught us off guard. * Olivo and Reed for Garcia caught us off guard * Masset for Griffey * Loaiza for Contreras * Garland for Cabrera *And Most cecently: Poreda, Richards and 2 other prospects for Peavy. These are a few examples. Normally if we hear about something being tied to the Sox, for whatever reason it doesnt happen.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 06:37 PM) Foot just came out of the boot. Hasn't done anything since it was injured. Everything goes well and maybe he pitches again in August. Thank you. That pretty much ends hope of a trade revisited.

Whats the status of Peavy's injury anyway?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 06:33 PM) So basically it was Hudson, Richard, and Poreda for Peavy? I can see why they'd do it, but we still lucked out on the injury. well the injury occured when he was running the bases. You could argue that it wouldn't of happened here.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 06:32 PM) I don't think Poreda's stock went down because of one game. For the most part he's been pretty good and as expected, imo. I thought he has been good also up to this point.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 06:30 PM) We still don't know who the PTBNL in that deal were, do we? I though it was 4 pitching prospects?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 06:26 PM) If they were calling him up as a "Showcase", that may have sort of backfired. Am i the only one who kind of wishes that Peavy deal went down now? Yea the money is absolutely NUTS! But all we had to give up was pitching prospects. Now were all worried about what it would potentially be in a Bacon'less world

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 06:19 PM) One interesting note is that the Jays weren't looking for any legit, established major league starting pitchers. With that deal it appears they were asking for the Mets #1 prospect and a guy in their top 5 prospect list. Its a shame that Poreda has been struggling lately. Because his stock was very high last month.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 06:15 PM) I think the only team with a real chance is the Phillies. agreed. I dont know why they are hesitating to give up Drabek.

QUOTE (beautox @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 06:08 PM) Mets just rejected a trade for Roy Halladay proposed by the jays; per MLBN Halladay for F-mart, Tejada, Parnell, Neise The Mets will not give up on F-Mart just like we hopefully wont give up on Bacon.

QUOTE (Cali @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 05:58 PM) Colon > Richard agreed. at least as a starter. However, i think Richard has the future to be an effective reliever. Hopefully like a Neil Cotts of 2004 and 2005.

Eh Wise/Anderson whatever. . THE HULK HOGAN OF BASEBALL IS BACK!!!!!

I actually think Dotel can close games the rest of the year. If they really need to clear salary. I'm wondering if Jenks being involved in a deal to Toronto may work? Especially if we take on Rolens contract. Jenks, Ramirez, Poreda, Richard plus 2 more prospects for Halladay and Rolen. The Jays get there SS, an expeirenced successful closer and 2 young pitchers with high cielings while shedding about $20 million in payroll for next season.

Dotel has been a strike out machine this year. He is much more reliable than Tony Pena. I honestly could see Bobby Jenks get dealt to clear payroll if the Halladay thing is serious.

I really think the Phillies are going to crack and offer Drabek. If that happens expect to see him in a Phillies uniform soon. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writ...ml?eref=writers

This Pena dude throws more meatballs than i had on my sub today.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 03:13 PM) Colon will be back next Friday (for the DH). I'm not a fan of calling up someone you're not sure about for such a big game, but whatever. Yea, unfortanatley we don't really have other options. However, I did hear there was a Freddy sighting in the clubhouse today. . .

If the Yanks help us out today we are still 1.5 games back which is an awesome way to start the 2nd half. Call me Peter Possitive but were still in great shape going forward. Yeah Getz needs to improve his baseball IQ, Alexie needs to stop his double clutch and Beckham needs to continue to bend it. But lets face it, we have 3 infielders who are playing at their respective positions for the first time at the MLB level. The 3 of them are on the learning curve together which is very rare. With CQ being out and for us to be where were at is amazing. If KW could pull a rabbit out of his hat and bring us a Halladay type w/o giving up the farm its our division to win.

Poreda has some tinkering to do. You could tell his confidence is pretty low and his mechanics are a bit off. Some time in triple-a should do wonders. I'm not giving up on the guy yet. And I still believe he has really good trade value. Halladay season anyone?

Kinda interesting how 4 runs are scored and not one of them was hit in.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 01:01 PM) Everyone needs to remember that Halladay can demand a trade this offseason if he gets traded. If the Sox don't grant it to him, he automatically becomes a free agent. I just don't see Halladay doing that. But i've been fooled before. . .

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 12:49 PM) I still believe Halladay and 1 1/3 seasons from him is not worth the cost. You would have to think the closer to the deadline, the lower the cost. IMO the Jays won't get near as much as they would get right now. The sooner they trade him the better off they will be. I think the Phillies will be the aggressive team that gets him. Out of the Phillies, Brewers, White Sox and Rangers, the Phillies are the team that is in the win now mode most. I hightly doubt the Brewers would continue to deplete their farm for another ace just to lose him via free agency again. The Rangers are interesting, but it makes me wonder if Roy would use his 'no trade clause' to refuse to go there. You would have to think its between the Phillies and White Sox, the Phillies making the most sense due to the state of each team. However, if the Phillies pull Drabek out of the deal, KW could easily sweep in- he's done that in the past.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 12:32 PM) oh my hey. . he could still 're-tool' Ever since i wrote that the Sox are 32-21. Its not the first time that i've eat crow.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 12:14 PM) Considering he started 0-13 and 2-28, the fact that he is hitting .296 is a testament to how good of a ballplayer this kid is going to be. He also has a .368 OBP and an .804 OPS, which is damn good considering it only comes with 3 homers. We're looking at a legit superstar in the future. My God, he's barely tapping the lowests ends of his potential right now. Beckham makes me gitty!!

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 11:51 AM) "Suddenly, the Rogers Centre is a destination for all sorts of baseball people. Pat Gillick, who stepped down last fall as GM of the Philadelphia Phillies, but remains a key adviser to current GM Ruben Amaro; Gord Ash, the former Jays GM and now assistant to Milwaukee Brewers GM Doug Melvin; Texas Rangers scout Don Welke; and, intriguingly, Chicago White Sox minority owner Eddie Einhorn, all were among the interested on hand for yesterday's second game of the weekend series between the Jays and Boston Red Sox. They saw the Blue Jays bounce back to thump the Red Sox 6-2 to tie the series, " http://www.torontosun.com/sports/columnist.../07/19/10184436 There are your remaining teams in the Halladay hunt. Stay tuned Sox fans.