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It all depends on how Detroit does. They seem to have found it again. Lets also see what direction the team takes with Quentin.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jun 22, 2009 -> 11:25 AM) Just saw also that Wily Mo Pena got released from the Mets AAA team. Not that I'm saying we should sign him, but if CQ doesn't come back, maybe the Sox will consider it for insurance purposes if they can't swing a trade for a replacement OF. Even if CQ comes back (which i doubt), the Sox should still look into improving the OF situation.

QUOTE (chisoxfan09 @ Jun 21, 2009 -> 11:16 PM) I threw up aHaren package thread on another forum to Backs fans and most said what the majority here commented on which is he is untouchable. For those who did reply positively they said any package would have to include Beckham and at least 2 MLB ready pitchers. So to sum up they want a ransom for Haren which I think we would be unwilling to pay. The thing is, we all over value our favorite team's players. Of course AZ fans won't be willing to trade away their ACE. I'm sure if Josh Byrnes recieves an offer that is hard to refuse, he would most likely look into it. It will likely cost us Poreda, Richards and Flowers + more. With this deal, the Sox would have the top 4 pitchers in their rotation locked up until 2012. A Buerhle, Haren, Danks, Floyd, 5th starter? This would give the Sox the best rotation in the AL Central for 3+ years.

He seems to have found his comfort zone. Both Beckham and Getz have really impressed me lately. Seeing production out of the new young core is encouraging. The only thing I dont understand is the situation with Poreda. If he isn't getting the playing time he deserves why is he up here?

Another nice road trip. Hopefully they don't ruin another one with a horrible homestand. Unfortanatley it looks like the Tigers have caught a second wind. Were still 5 games back. If the Sox could somehow get to .500 by the ASB and Quentin is clear to make a post ASB return, i'd say make a run at it and make some moves. If they are still under .500, about 5-6 games back and Quentin is out for the remainder of the year, i'd say start looking forward to 2010.

QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Jun 21, 2009 -> 06:54 AM) FWIW, Webb maybe done for the year. yep. really wouldn't make much sense to go after him. I would however make a strong push at Haren. Arizona seems to be in seller mode, nows the time to make that call.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 20, 2009 -> 01:53 PM) Ok greg, which pitchers are available that anyone would actually want? Bedard's going nowhere with his injury issues. Marquis is going nowhere with the recent success of the Rockies. I'm all for freeing up a few extra million while giving Poreda the chance to start some games after the ASB. I really hope Poreda starts a few games this year. We have to see what have with these guys.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Jun 20, 2009 -> 11:33 AM) If Jose is traded July 31st, how much money is left on the deal? 3 million? 4 million? With 2 months left in the season Contreras will be owed 3.33 million. I could see us taking a million of that in we'd get a couple of decent prospects back in return.

QUOTE (tommy @ Jun 19, 2009 -> 02:48 PM) I'm pretty sure soon enough we're gonna see production out of the 3B. Gordon looks legit, high contact rate, those balls are gonna fall for hits soon. Yep. Beckham is starting to find his rythm out there. I've actually been more and more impressed by Getz also. If those 2 could all of a sudden start getting on base we could be a dangerous team in the 2nd half- esspecially with the way our starting pitching is going. (wow, never thought i'd say that)

QUOTE (whitesox901 @ Jun 19, 2009 -> 05:03 AM) You have to look at our needs by position for 2010 1B - Paul Konerko 2B - Alexei Ramirez 3B - Dayan Viciedo SS - Gordon Beckham LF - CF - Brian Anderson RF - Carlos Quentin C - AJ Pierzynksi DH - Jermaine Dye I really doubt Anderson will be our everyday CF next year. If anything he will continue to be our 4th OF. I truly believe Jordan Danks patrols CF next season (have to remember we are slowly getting younger and younger). Quentin could definitley move to RF and platoon DH with Dye next season, but he could also stay in LF and the Sox could aqcuire an established OF like Crawford to patrol RF.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 18, 2009 -> 08:27 PM) BTW, thanks for creating this thread to get our mind off of today's actions. anytime guys. . this will keep our sox thoughts going for next month or so! Keep this wonderful discussion going!

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 18, 2009 -> 06:44 PM) Jose can throw a no hitter in each of his next 2 starts. If the Sox don't pick up most of the money left on his contract, he's not tradeable unless the Sox take back a big contract. Hmm thats a thought. Similar to the Loaiza-Contreras trade of 2004. I wonder if there are some interesting 5th starters on an NL contender with tremendous upside?

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 18, 2009 -> 06:16 PM) Completely agree. On a sidenote, excellent discussion you've started!!!!! thanks man!

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 18, 2009 -> 06:07 PM) That is where you have to hope that Kenny can somehow find a way to get a nice piece. That said, the even tougher part is you also have Danks slated for CF so its going to be interesting. Hopefully Getz hits down the stretch and it allows a top of the order of Getz/Beckham and than the Sox can find a way to pick up another outfielder or something. It isn't going to be easy. I really hope the Sox kids pan out in a hurry cause we got a nice looking rotation long-term. You have to take into consideration that Dye's option will most likely not be picked up. However he may return as our DH. So that leaves RF and CF open for improvement. So if they decide to let Danks run with it in CF next year awesome, you still have RF to potentially fill. I would love Carl Crawford- even as our leadoff hitter. Its too bad they weren't out of contention, because i would LOVE for KW find a way to bring him over. A Quentin-Danks-Crawford OF going forward would definitley work.

I'm totally down for finding that leadoff hitter. But according to you guys, the only way we do it is if we fill up CF? Who is out there?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 18, 2009 -> 05:58 PM) Where in the hell would Sanchez play? We have a perfect #2 hitter on our team, and his name is Gordon Beckham. Beckham's not ready for the #2 slot yet. Sanchez would likely play 2b. It would most likely cost Getz to bring him over.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 18, 2009 -> 05:54 PM) The last thing we need to do is acquire an infielder. I really think finding a leadoff hitter for next year would be the best acquisition, but that won't happen with Pods on the team right now. I agree with finding a leadoff hitter. But Sanchez would be the perfect 2 hole hitter for the next year and a half. Honestly i would much rather have him over Figgins and it would be for a much shorter term. You could try and aqcuire your leadoff hitter this winter. Right now Pods is doing a decent job on the cheap.

Freddy Sanchez has an $8 million option for next year. You figure PK and AJ come off that year also. He would help us with the rest of this year and be apart of a competitive younger team next year.

Rosenthal We are just 3.5 games out with how bad our team has been. Detroit seems to be falling apart before our eyes. Does KW dare to buy? If KW were to go ahead and get a bat. Who would you like him to pursue? Everyone knows the guy I want KW to get is Freddy Sanchez. He would be a perfect #2 hitter and would solidify our lineup. You could then move Alexie down in the order where he should be. What do you guys think? Personally i wouldn't mind if he did sell, but with the state of the AL Central, why not try and be stubborn and win it again?

that was a fun game to watch. ozzie managed like the best of them today. Danks was lights out. Nice job by the pen to lock it down. I think the bottom of the order did a great job today getting key hits. Lets get the 2 game sweep tommorow!

Sit him down the rest of the way. See you in 2010 buddy.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 16, 2009 -> 07:54 PM) Wow, that was really nice. Great find. I posted this video on here in the White Sox video thread awhile ago. . its my favorite one. For some reason the myspace videos wont work on my PC, what do i need to download for them to work properly?

Carlos Guillen is going to likely miss the rest of the year for Detroit. Per Foxsports Thats a big blow to their team, they are going to need all the offense they can get. Esspecially with the way Willis and Galarraga have been struggling. According to The Detroit Free Press , the Tigers will be buyers. I'm guessing they will try to add another starting pitcher and a left fielder with offensive pop. My question is, will Detroit be the only buyer in the AL Central division? I'm thinking the Twins will likely stick with what they have and hope to compete with that. The Royals are closer than last season, but still need to address many possitions, they'll likely be sellers in hope to address those positions for next season. Cleveland is a big mess, injuries, lack of pitching depth and so on. They need to sell DeRosa now while his stock is super high. The Sox are in a weird position, they have potentially 4 experering contracts that will shed about 40 million from their payroll next season, do they sell those players now? Or do they sit back and wait alittle longer to determine if they can be in this thing the rest of the way? If they can get to .500 by July 1st and be about 2-3 games back, i garuntee you KW will be a buyer. He won't be a significant buyer (meaning he won't trade away his farm depth) but he could easily add another bat in the lineup to add pop to the top of the order.

I never thought i'd say this. But as of right now. I'm okay with our rotation. If Contreras continues to show flashes of his successful past were set for the remainder of the year. Buerhle has been solid all year, Danks is coming back stronger each start, Floyd seems to be coming back and Richards is probably one of the better 5th starters in the league and he keeps showing signs of maturity. If Contreras goes down (i hope not), we have young stud Aaron Poreda waiting in the wings. Now if KW wants to add an ACE going forward for next year and beyond, i'm all for it. Guys like Dan Haren come to mind but thats about it. Guys like Barry Zito wouldn't improve our staff tremendously at all. I think if KW were to add another SP, it would have to be a top of the rotation ACE type of pitcher. What this team really needs is a bat. I've said if before and i'll say it again, Freddy Sanchez would be a perfect addition to the top of the order. I like Getz and i think he would really be a solid player in this league, but we need a little more consistency at the top of our lineup. He has an 8 million option for next year- which is very reasonable. With him and CQ coming back and the rejuvinated Bronze Titan- were right back in the mix in a very below average division. Sanchez 2B Ramirez SS Dye RF Thome DH Konerko 1B Quentin LF Pierzynski C Beckham 3b Pods/Anderson CF Thats a better lineup than anyone else in the AL Central. . .

QUOTE (rangercal @ Jun 15, 2009 -> 02:33 PM) If we have 2005 2nd half/2006 1st half contreras that will= 2009 Central Division Champion Chicago White Sox. No Doubt in my mind. Will he keep this up? Likely, no. If he does, the rotation looks like this. Contreras Buehrle Danks Floyd Richard The hitting should heat up. If not, I still like our chances with that rotation. Yep. key phrase- will he keep it up? He is healthy now. But we've seen this before, he shows flashes of the past, then tears something. I really hope the guy stays healthy for once. And if he does, i completely agree with you rangercal- the White Sox have a great shot at winning the central. Even with our subpar lineup.