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QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 8, 2005 -> 12:09 AM) This shouldn't even be a debate. Orton has done about as well as somebody put into the situation he was put into. Besides the Cincy game what games has he really lost them. He isn't making very many stupid mistakes and is managing the game well. Orton is the future not Grossman. Well considering he didnt lead the team to 1 scoring drive against Washington id say he lost us that game 2. The only TD we had was from a special teams fumble recovery and TJ run. And if we had a legit QB during that Browns game I bet we had a good chance of winning that one too... although some blame has to be put on the defense for giving up the TD's late although the 1 should of never even there if Orton didnt fumble. Guys Grossman is injury prone but when he is out there in like what 6 career games... only 5 when he has gone basicly the whole game he has thrown 200 plus yards like 3 times. Orton has gone over 200 once...... and against the Saints he almost lost us that game too. He had 2 int and a fumble. Not 2 mention if the refs didnt cally a ticky tack pass interference it would of been 3. Also when he deeply overthrew Muhsin that one play the Saints guy had an easy int but failed. Go watch the Saints game again... that was the 1st game I saw our recievers constantly getting open and beating their men and Orton had a horrible game and overthrew them all day long. He had a few nice ones ill give him that mostly the 2 to Muhsin... but his accuracy seems to be getting worse not better. He has had some major bumps in his career but Grossman is the more talented and I think if he is healthy gives our team the best chance to win. Think how bad Orton has actually been against all these lousy teams... now look ahead and see we face Carolina, Tampa, Atlanta, and Pittsburgh soon... imagine him against those teams.

Well im happy... Im not a big eagles fan especially after all the media attention this off-season so w/out TO I dont think they will be going into the playoffs which is good. That means the only team that was apposed to be great in the NFC is really out. Some can argue the Panthers but they are beatable. Although the Eagles can really take away from the loss if they start to run the ball. If they can establish a running game their offense wont miss a beat w/out TO.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 11:23 PM) Just curious but why has Nocioni been starting over Deng? Skiles being Skiles........ Although after what he did last season I cant complain to much.... But Deng is the much better player and should start ahead of Nocioni.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 03:26 PM) I think Jones is going to want the ball even more now that his supporting cast had a showing like that. When he hurt his knee against the Bengals, I thought he was gonna be out a few days, but he came right back and had a couple great games. I dont think anything pushes Jones more than someone breathing down his neck A course he is going to want the ball but its the coaches decision who is going to play. And im confident enough in Lovie that he will do whats best for Jones and the team and bench him a week.

Considering I worked Fri,Sat, and Sun. id say it was not 2 go... But hey the Bears won so not all is lost.

A course I still want them to win a WS. And if they do a course ill celebrate and go to the parade and everything. But unlike this season where I would of been absolutely crushed if they lost in the WS. Id still be very sad/mad but Id be able to deal with it. A course thats unless its a WS vs the Cubs Against them we have to win to defend our honor lol.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 05:44 AM) The girl on the right is just plain fugly. Im not saying she is hot... but who looks good in their mug pics.... its like your drivers license picture... Nobody looks good in them.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 03:42 AM) Wow, it's a miracle what make-up can do. Check out the vile beast on the right. :puke Using their mug shots isnt really a good comparison lol.... You have to find one inbetween.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 04:38 AM) well we learned a few weeks ago that even when he looks like he'll miss time, he works his way back in. If its possible to play, he will With how extremely banged up he is and the way Adrian Peterson and Benson performed..... I would be very surprised if he gets the majority of the carries next week.

QUOTE(Brian @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 02:21 AM) And Owens replacement, Reggie Brown, with a 56 yard TD reception. Take that Terrell and Drew! 2 bad thats all they did.

Ive never been a big King Kong fan but when i saw the trailer a long time ago i knew I had to see this movie. I think it will make a huge amount of money possibly top 10..

Its possible that this is the last one but it will be kind of dissapointing since they never really got into Venom/Carnage..... Im sure Toby Maguire wants to do as many as these movies as possible but yeah Kirstin Dunst would probably be the hard one to keep coming back. A course her role really isnt that big in the movie and they could always introduce that blonde cant remember her name from the comics.

Every single game he overthrows his recievers... you would think in week 9 they would be able to fix the prob.

I know some people think Orton is a savior... but I personally cant wait till Grossman returns and will be pissed if he doesnt start when he is ready.

Nah your defense has improved but cmon our group is a top 5 unit... yours still has some work to do. Also keep in mind ours has perfomed better while being on the field longer since you guys have a better offense.

actually right now Dallas is a better team than the bears. If our offense can move the ball consistantly when Grossman returns that could change but right now Dallas > Chicago.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 06:05 AM) I thought he was suspended with pay. Can they really even suspend him w/out pay for something like this. He didnt do anything to breach his contract or something like that. Didnt do anything against the rules..... Because if you could just suspend people without pay..... even if they are part of the salary teams could do that to players who have sucked once getting the big money.

I think one of the big keys to our success during the season will be Michael Sweetney. As the season goes on he needs to keep being a bigger role of the offense and he really needs to cut down on the fouls. Im liking what im seeing from all our guards they have done their share.... One thing that needs to change and I hope Skiles does this is give Deng a significant more amount of time at SF than Nocioni...... I love Nocioni but he cant be a starter.

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 04:13 AM) Actually it had been established that he would probably play on Sunday. He said as much in his interview. And even if he wasn't going to play, it gets him and the distraction out of their hair and costs him money, so you can't say it would have been dumb. There's a reason for everything. With the amount of money he had do you really think missing pay for 1 game is really going to hurt him?

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 02:12 AM) The main issue is his health of course, but if he can stay healthy, he was a 1st rounder, could definitely be interesting to watch. Funny thing is Ross Verba was telling his buddies he was about to ink a nice long - term deal with the Boys just before we signed Colombo. Just so you know while he was a 1st rounder most people didnt think he would go in the 1st round more likely the 2nd.... it was a reach for a pick to begin with.

We need an actual C. From the sounds of it and watching him play against the Bobcats I dont like Chandler there when he is clearly a PF. We dont have 1 legit C on the team and thats going to kill us the entire season.

They have been good recently but really its a dumb franchise..... As for TO yes he is an ass and talks to much but hey he is arguably the best WR in the game and he did put his career on the line last year in the Super Bowl. If this suspension only is 1 game its really dumb since TO wasnt going to play anyway.... With TO the eagles would struggle to make the playoffs from the looks of it now w/out him I dont think they even will especially in that division.

And Konerko's road stats are good? I havent looked at it this year but last season he was absolutely horrible on the road.... Yes all those rangers take advantage of their park but they also would be able to take advantage of our park.

My ideal off-season would be to wave goodbye to Konerko since he will cost 2 much money. Sign Giles 3 years 10 million a year... I know its a lot of money for a player his age but its worth it he doesnt put up huge HR numbers but he is still very very good. Trade Rowand/Marte in a package for Overbay and whatevr.... I dont care if they throw in a prospect or something just the idea is to lose those 2 players and get Overbay. Trade Dye for some prospects or bullpen help or whatevr. He had a nice season for us won WS MVP but he did stink for the first whole half of the season hence the nicnname Dead. Resign Frank for a year and a team option for a 2nd year worth 5 million or so. Batting Order: Podsenick Iguchi Giles Thomas Overbay Pierznski Crede Uribe Anderson and the rest is the same just replace Marte with Munoz or something.

Like I said unless its Teixiera coming out of Texas stay away from their players.... He can play 3B too if thats what they really want so its all good. I guess Michael Young is good too but Blalock is way overated.