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QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 06:30 PM) Michael Finley is defensive minded? Never knew shooting 3's helped your defense...... He is pretty good defensively actually. He can shut down most shooting guards and the smaller small forwards.

Are all the oakland fans from a freak show?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 11:06 PM) Two things. Sign Jabroni's new guy, Quantrill, the LOOGY, and promote Baj. I don't give a damn what you do with Vizcaino and Walker, just, get them out of the organization. Man... I wish we would've grabbed someone else from Milwaukee rather than Viz. Stanton you mean and i agree 1000000000000000%. Rowand fish you alright.

Meatball sucks so bad ( i don't care what he did a few nights ago).

QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 11:00 PM) your sig frightens me. Don't worry, blank spaces scare me too.

Meatball coming in for '' walk em in'' = yayayayay.

Walker is very lucky he swung at ball three.

Walker doing his best imitation of contreras.

Ozzie must figure the game is a lost cause anyway with bringing walker in.

If you can throw strikes 3-0 why not at any other ppoint in the f***ing count? I don't care if you give up hits just don't give them free f***ing bases.

Lol @ contreras.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 10:45 PM) Woah, woah, woah, that one he had no chance at getting to. You have got to be kidding me. He slowed down and watched it drop.

More proof podsednik cannot field worth s***.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 06:07 PM) And just to let it be known, I did not appreciate being called out like this. If someone had a problem, which they did, I would much rather have had them PM me or make a post directly to me. You adapt, i have.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 06:02 PM) Basden's a player, period. This is true but what sucks is that raja bell is is off the market. We need another tall defensive minded veteran that can post up on the team ( no disrespect against basden). Looking more and more likely that finley could be had for the mle, so that could be another option.

Basden was the conference usa player of the year. First league player to earn back-to-back defensive player of the year honors since former cincinnati standout kenyon martin. Led his team in rebounding with 8.4 rebs per game. Yet he goes undrafted beause 17-18 year old europeans are 7 feet plus and they have great ''potential''. Ridiculous.

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QUOTE(VAfan @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 01:09 PM) A fair enough point. But a trade for Schmidt (that might also include Vizquel) is not viable unless the Giants are willing to take Contreras's (and Uribe's if Vizquel is involved) contract off our hands. Otherwise, a deal for one or both blows up our carefully planned salary structure. And do you really believe Contreras or Uribe are critical to team chemistry? As you can see, I made the argument in the same post that Crede may be because he was home-grown, but I just don't see it for the other guys. And sure the Sox could have taken Vizquel's guaranteed 3rd year in the offseason. The reason I think they may now reconsider that choice (and Kalapse I added your name here for the quick line suggesting they wouldn't) is threefold: 1) Uribe seems to have reverted to pre-2004 hitting form, 2) KW now knows this is a postseason team and will consider stretching to make it the best possible postseason team, and 3) Uribe signed for 3 years after Vizquel rejected us, so we are just plugging one 3-year SS in for another. Uribe is one of ozzie's guy i am thinking. Probally wouldn't make him too happy to see him go but i don't know that for sure. Also, we would be plugging in a three year deal for another one while losing 13 years at a primary position that is hard to find really defensive players at. You also have to think uribe has alot s*** load of potential... i know i do anyway. I just don't think vizquel's vizquel puts us over the top and he is not worth uribe. You have to also remember uribe is not old enough for the giants.

QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 12:15 PM) reiner has the leg up for the spot given he has played during the season with the bulls but austin or basden deserve a shot, and if this roster espansion happens they both might make it No, they are both superior players than reiner. They both have a better shot of making the team over reiner unless he majikly wins the mvp of the summer league.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 08:03 AM) True, we knew they would hit homers. But it's disappointing when they get no hit for inning after inning instead of manufacturing runs like they did earlier in the season. Do you know how often teams get ''no hit for inning after inning'' over the course of a game. It happens every single day against both good and bad pitchers It's not just the sox... and if you do not believe me check some box scores/inning play by play. That arguement is getting veryold.

Anyone that uses ''we are last in triples'' in their arguement is insane. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 11:41 AM) What Exactley did I ever say about Vizquel? Funny how I don't even remember talking about him, seeing how I alway stay out of Vizquel discussions. Maybe he confused our names?

QUOTE(wsox08 @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 02:27 AM) Wow... Francis is 5-1 with a 3.50 era at home and is 1-4 with a 7.21 era away... I would take Francis over Josh Stewart for sure, but not sure about this one... maybe even over Felix Diaz No, you would give 18 josh stewart's/felix diaz's for francis.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 01:57 AM) Offensively? Dunn worse than Tejada? You're kidding, right? Going off of career averages, you lose almost .100 OPS % points with Tejada, about .050 OBP % points, and .040 SLG% points. Overall player, sure, you take Tejada 'cause he's a stud on defense. But offensively, not a chance. Vlad, yeah. He's up there. I was going off the top of my head, don't know why I forgot about him. Even so, what does AVG mean, again? A guy isn't great because he doesn't have a good batting average? A guy isn't great when he cannot crack over .200 with men on base.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 11:53 PM) Eric Chavez: G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG 2005 78 305 45 83 18 1 11 44 136 28 64 1 0 .332 .446 .272 He's already having a damn good season. That's a damn good season? :puke