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QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 08:36 PM) Dye needs a triple here to score Konerko.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 08:35 PM) Im talking about the picture and sound quality. They make the fans sound very close, and make the game alot brighter on tv. High definition.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 08:28 PM) What is the difference between ESPN cameras and Comcast cameras? Why does it always seem so exciting when a game is on ESPN? I dont get it. The rest of the world watching might be it?

I am sorry but podsednik has been caught way too many times on the base paths this year. I am not just talking his caught stealing but all of his pick offs ( 7 or 8 i believe now and not even have way through the season? Sure he is effective but not at a very good rate. Even though this does not seem to be the general concensus i think he ''presence'' has been overated. Btw i know basically no one is gonan agree with me on this.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 04:10 PM) Players like Kevin Garnett who wanted to go to college but did not have the ACT scores to get into UNC will not play JUCO when they can make a million playing in Europe for a year. And if I was a European club, I would pay through the teeth to get a player like Lebron for 1 or 2 years. The guy is one of the best in the NBA already, imagine what he could do for a European franchise. I also do not think it will impact the NCAA significantly as for every Carmello Anthony, there are hundreds who make little to no impact as a freshman. And its not about needing the money, its about risking millions of dollars to play for $40k worth of schooling. If you are injured when you play in the NCAA, you could ruin your entire career with out recieving any compensation besides for a college education. And while that is great and all, most college graduates do not make $20million in a lifetime (50 years of working at $400k per year not counting taxes), let alone in one season. If I were an 18 year old basketball player who felt they would be drafted in the top 10 out of High School and was presented with 2 options: a) Go to college for 1 year, make 0, and then go to the pros. Or B) Go to Europe for 1 year, make $1mil, and then go to the pros. I would have to say choice b is the best option. You can always go to college if you have the money, and if you make $1mil (subtract $200k for college), you are left with $800k profit, versus the 0 you make playing for the NCAA. The injury risk is the same, and as the NBA draft has shown, if you are good enough it does not matter where you play, you will be drafted high. Once again just my opinion, but if at 18 I was offered $1mil a year, I would not have gone to college. SB For every garnett, kobe, mcgrady, and a few other high schoolers that made it big there are tens of thousands of kids who would do nothing in the nba without learning the game better in college. They also is also an oppurtunity for players to mature their games wether it be passing, shooting, handles, overall basketball iq, etc. The league is watered done at this point... it's not even that the talent is not there, it's because the younger players have not learned both aspects of basketball. Some don't even can't even control either aspect of the game but that have shown flashes of greatness that teams just cannot pass them up. For me it is very simple. I want to see players play the game the right way and not sit on the bench for 2, 3, 4 years before doing anything signifigant in the nba ( jermaine o'neal and zach randolph are great examples)>

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jun 21, 2005 -> 12:51 PM) I think that you will see more 18-19 year olds head for Europe to play for a year or 2 and then come back. If you want the money, you do not have to play in the NBA. I am against any sort of age limit on all sports, as it should be up to the team and the player to decide what is best for them. If Microsoft wanted to hire an 18 year old and pay them $10million, you would not see IBM try and make the US create a law that says you have to be 19 before you can be a computer programmer. ::shrugs:: There is really no reason for this rule, and I hope it burns the NBA with some of the best young talent going over seas. SB The difference between an 18 year old working at microsoft compared to playing in the pros of any sport is very, very different. Only a few rare specimans such as lebron can handle playing 40 a game 82 games a year and put up the numbers he did. Most people his age are not in the shape he was when he came into he league. He was bigger than nearly and sg/sf in all of basketball and could keep up with nearly anyone in his position. The main sport there should be an age limit because players are clearly not ready at the age of 18 is football. Many of those players are just not big enough and could enough to be worthy of a spot on a nfl team. Also you have to think of the health risks playing professional sports at such a young age compared to sitting in a desk working on computers. 18 year old tight ends, wide recievers, and running backs would end up dying in the nfl in my opinion.

One more inning of not scoring until i start see corpse ball? Or am i off on that? Bruuuuuuuuuuuce weber.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 11:15 PM) Adios Munchacho. Can you ban that silly f***er wite while your at it? Or how about rowand?

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 11:24 PM) welcome to soxtalk and minnesotasoxfan got booted... he seemed like he was one of the biggest posters what happened there? He is a moron. Basically sums up that. He has been suspended numerous times and has talked lots of s*** about soxtalk and still continues to come back some how. He always use to im willie and i about how he was gonna commit suicide when he was once banned. Call me a bad person but i could have cared less if he did. He was nothing but a dick head.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 11:20 PM) Dye's definitely a liability in right field, mobility wise. He's got a good arm, he just doesn't get as many chances to use it as he really should in better situations. Nearly every single time he has had a chance to throw someone out or hold a runner etc... he over throws it by alot.

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 10:53 PM) It isn't too hard to be an improvement over Val Kilmer or George Clooney. I haven't seen BB yet but it is going to be hard to top Michael Keaton's performance as the Caped Crusader (I think I'm gonna watch that movie tonight with all this talk of Batman) "Gentlemen, let's broaden our minds!" All hail - the new king in town Young and old, gather 'round (yeah) Black and white, red and green (funky) The funkiest man you've ever seen From nearly every where i have seen bale>keaton's performance. I have not seen it yet either but i wouldn't doubt it. Bale has been in some good movies and i really like his acting abilities.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 10:42 PM) 3 or 4 Exactly why i said several. Anyway... Lima's wife.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 10:35 PM) Isin't it funny how people here said Hermey was finished after 1 bad outing? One bad outing or several?

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 10:32 PM) 100-110 Players can't shoot anymore. :headshake Or defend... :headshake For the most part they think they are playing street ball out there.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 10:30 PM) At least he's doing something. 20 would have been ideal, but give credit to Stern for getting somthing done. I think this will help to improve the quality of the game (at least I hope so) in that players will come in one step closer to being NBA-ready instead of bench-warming projects who, unfortunately, are sometimes either overhyped to begin with or their growth is stunted by sitting on the bench... And yeah, he's probably the best commisioner. I like what he has done thus far. Hopefully the next time they have their talks ( six years from now i believe) it will be raised to twenty.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 10:27 PM) Maybe we need a game thread for reinsdorfsucks and jabroni, and then one for everyone else. Several others or so could partcipate in that thread too. The chat must have been slow eh?

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 10:26 PM) Pax tried to trade up to Toronto in order to select Wade. In hindsight, it was a deal he should have made, though I can remember the details. Paxson didn't want to trade away marshall even though he ended up doing so anyway the same year.

That was a disgusting game. I will take it, but disgusting.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 10:20 PM) I feel like a damn babysitter after tonight. Congrats on the 15,000 posts. Your one of the very best posters we have an without you this place would lose alot of what i like about it. Keep it up.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 10:05 PM) And, I know this is off-topic, but something pretty cool happened tonight. We had some summer basketball games, and guess who's there? Dwayne Wade. Pretty neat. Real big guy -- sometimes basketball players look small on TV, but he's friggin' huge. I didn't go get his autograph or nothin', I figure enough people go and do that. Just, kind of cool on a night where I watched the junior guards s*** down their legs... How long did he stick around? Did he just shoot around or help teach you guys things? How awesome would it have been if he went to us like he was projected a week before the draft. Then last second he moved up out of our range. I was calling for us to trade up for him if need be the entire off-season then.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 10:10 PM) Not to mention players such as OJ Mayo will already be 19 by their senior year of high school, and to make it even worse, they can turn 19 up to draft night. What this will do is turn only a few of the elite players to college, the others will already be 19 years old at the time, or will attend prep school for a year, take it easy, and enter the draft out of high school anyways. This just goes to show you who's really running the NBA, its not Stern, its Hunter, the PA, and the agents. Stern should have stuck to what he has always wanted which is a 20 year old limit. I wouldn't have really cared if they locked out or not if they got that done and lowered the amount of years on a max contract and the amount of money per years. One of those two got done and it got done relatively quick so i cannot complain. Stern is far and away the best commissioner in sports currently, in my opinion anyway.

QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 10:05 PM) Cotts is better than Marte, just like my dead grandmother is. How about cotts proves himself for more than half of a year? Right now he cannot touch marte.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 09:58 PM) About to be put into play... http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2091116 Yipee :headshake 19 is such a dumbass age limit. If they insist on an age limit ( which i mostly agree) why not make it 20 years old? If they want players to mature how about them doing so for multiple years at college rather than just one.

QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 10:03 PM) All I care is that the nba plays next year. It will. They are extremely close to completing a deal. Should be announced at the end of this week or early next week.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 09:56 PM) Come on, Shingo has been as bad as Vizcaino all season. Do you really want to see him in THIS game? I'd rather see Cotts go 1 more inning. He has only thrown 19 pitches. On a scale one through ten and ten being the worse... how bad do you still hate cotts.