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QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jun 24, 2005 -> 09:24 AM) NL teams are scoring more than AL teams this season, and in the past 30 years there has never been a single season in which the difference between runs scored amounted to .9 runs per game. Would you say the difference is about a half run or so?

Rowand k's on an outside corner pitch.

Konerko walks. Bases loaded for rowand with one out.

Podsednik steals third, first and third one out for konerko.

Thomas walks.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 24, 2005 -> 03:48 PM) No, don't say s*** then. That's my way of thinking. I said it should be 3-0 and it very well could have been. Just shut the hell up and watch the game. Ozuna should score here...you gonna say something now? Yes, i will say something. Men on first and third with no outs and a guy up who puts the ball in play should score one run at the very least. At the very worse there will be a double play which will bring in one run. Man on second with no outs is not a given.

Iguchi flies out the the warning track, 2-1 sox.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 24, 2005 -> 03:44 PM) Don't get on me about s*** like that then... It was stupid to say. Sorry. Do you know how often teams don't score with a man on second and no outs? I could see if we had a man on third with no outs and we didn't score. The it would be a different story.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Jun 24, 2005 -> 03:36 PM) Really? From what I've seen of him throughout his career, he's gotten torched an awful lot. He doesn't have that rep either (unless I've been sleeping and he put in more effort on the defensive end this year). Maybe I went too far in calling him a weak defensive player, but he doesn't really do much for me. I do know that alot of people are impressed with his defense. Several teams want him because of both his scoring and defensive abilities because they are lacking defense in that position. Either way he is gonna geta a nearly max contract this summer.

Patterson k's to end the inning, 1-1.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 24, 2005 -> 03:39 PM) Aaron shoulda scored in the 2nd That makes zero sense.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 24, 2005 -> 03:36 PM) Score should be 3-0 How so?

1-1 on a hollandsworth homer.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 24, 2005 -> 03:03 PM) Guys ... I think the Ted Lilly thing might be close. Anything you would like to share?

Crede grounds out to second inning over, 1-0 sox.

Dye lines out to second, rowand nearly gets doubled up at second.

Rowand steals second.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Jun 24, 2005 -> 12:28 PM) You won't get an argument out of me as far as his scoring potential is concerned, but Johnson is a weak defensive player who tends to disappear at times. I see guys like that all over the league. He's not worth the money, IMO. Joe defensive is pretty damn good defensively. Are you thinking of linton johnson?

Konerko flies out to left to end the inning. 1-0 after one.

Frank homers 1-0.

1-1 pitch out and podsednik wasn't going anywhere. Podsednik is picked off yet again on the next throw over. That is so f***ing old already.

Mitre goes 3-0 on podsednik, comes back to 3-2 and podsednik fights off 2-3 pitches, he ends up walking.

QUOTE(shakes @ Jun 24, 2005 -> 03:06 PM) Where is the chat room? Top right of the page.

The point of this thread is to post who you thought was the worse and not who you dislike the most. Colon? Williams? Come on.

QUOTE(TheHammer @ Jun 24, 2005 -> 03:02 AM) Our offense was better last season than it was the first two months of this season. In June our offense has been excellent thanks mostly to Konerko and Dye and Frank hitting the cover off the ball. But for those first two months our offense was worse than last season regardless of the inconsistencies. We won because of pitching those two months, we had some clutch hitting too, but mostly the pitching is what we have relied on to win. We had a poor starting staff last season when compared to what it is this season. Loaiza wasn't good, Garland wasn't half of what he is now, and the 5th spot was obviously a loss just about every time out. The consistent offense is good but weren't winning games because of offense early this year. Also I would like to note that Carlos Lee was probably our most consistent hitter last season hitting over .300 every month except April when he hit like .265. Also why are we more consistent on offense this season? I think its because Ozzie is making us manufacture some runs more often so when we don't get the HRs we can still score and he has done it with the whole lineup, not just Pods. It has been something Ozzie has instilled with the whole club and we would be more willing to manufacture regardless of who is leading off. Pods has literally given us 56 runs (from scoring and driving in, kind of an unorthadox way to look at it I know) and has 2 SHs. The runs he has literally plated is 5th on the team and 2 SHs is average. Really Pods has been kind of an average contributor to us scoring runs as it has turned out. He doesn't grab a lot of total bases so he isn't efficient in driving in runs even when they are out there to be driven in. Even if he hit .400 with RISP he wouldn't drive in a ton because singles just don't drive in runs in large amounts. So why doesn't he score a ton of runs (He is on pace for like 90 which is solid but nothing great). Well he has a .363 OBP but effectively he has about a .325 OBP because he has been CS/picked off 9 times. So he isn't on for Everett, Konerko, Aaron, or Frank to drive in as often as some people think. Then you might say well he has 36 steals, well those steals are great but look at the guy below him in steals, Figgins who has 23. Figgins has 13 fewer steals but he has 5 HRs, 6 triples, and 11 doubles. Podsednik has 10 doubles and no other extra base hits. These steals are making up for the fact that Podsednik hasn't produced crap for extra base hits ( I'm guessing he is last in the majors among starters who have say 200 ABs or so). Pods has 77 total bases, thats pretty bad but the amazing thing is of the 5 guys in the American league with 77 total bases Pods has scored 16 more runs than the next highest. And obviously this is because of his base running ability. Not only steals, but just being fast enough to take extra bases that other players don't have the physical ability to take. Pods has the potential to be such a dominant player. If he could start getting some extra base hits like he did in 2003 he would cross homeplate so much more often than he does. But until he reverts back to his 2003 form he can't compare to what Carlos Lee does for an offense. Even considering how his threat of stealing has helped Iguchi. Been caught stealing 9 times and picked off at least seven if not eight times this season. I mean he was picked off twice in one damn game, that is ridiculous.