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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 30, 2011 -> 12:19 AM) I would say that the best compromise would be to go 4 years with a vesting option that should be easily reached if Danks stays healthy. It becomes a regular team option with a large buyout if not reach so that, assuming it isn't reached which would also assume that Danks did not pitch particularly well, he would still go into free agency with a bit of change so he can still get a 1-year deal and not need to make a killing on it. Somewhere around $16 mill a year at full value, so like... '12 - $12 mill '13 - $15 mill '14 - $16 mill '15 - $17 mill '16 - $20 mill or $4 mill buyout, vests with 90 starts between '13-'15 or 25 starts in '15 Total guaranteed value is $64 mill over 4 years while the 5th year, if reached, pushes the total value to $80 million (maintaining the $16 mill per year value). If Danks is healthy and pitching well, he's worth that contract and, again assuming health and all that jazz, he is still young enough that he can secure another pretty sizable deal and push his career earnings well over $100 mill. So why does danks get $16M over 4 years while Billingsley gets around $11M for 3 years with a $3M buyout. And Billingsley has a lower career ERA, higher K/9, and better W-L figure.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 29, 2011 -> 09:41 PM) So if my math is correct, that's two FA years bought out by the Dodgers. That's another equal or better pitcher than Danks extended by their club. Only one left is Kershaw. And I'm fairly confident the Dodgers will take care of him soon. I still stand by my stance that if something can't get done with Danks after this season that you trade him for the absolute best possible package. 100% agree

Today the Dodgers extended Chad Billingsley for 3 years with an option for a 4th year. Billingsley, like Danks, is in his 2nd year his second of three seasons as an arbitration eligible player. Under his new extension, the right-hander will then earn $9MM in 2012, $11MM in 2013, $12MM in 2014 and either $14MM or a $3MM buyout in 2015. The deal includes a clause which allows Billingsley to block trades to ten teams. He posted a 3.57 ERA with 8.0 K/9 and 3.2 BB/9 in 191 2/3 innings last year and is set to earn 6.275M this year through his 2nd year of arbitration elibilibilty. He posted a 3.57 ERA with 8.0 K/9 and 3.2 BB/9 in 191 2/3 innings last year. His career numbers - 59-41 record, 3.55 ERA, 825 2/3 innings, 8.2 K/9 and 3.9 BB/9. Danks has basically had a near identical career. Last year Danks was 15-11 with a 3.72 ERA, and posted a 6.8 K/9 and 3 BB/9 rate in 213IP. This lead Danks to a $6M contract for this year, his 2nd year of arbitration elibility. Danks owns a career line of 46-44 with a 3.96 ERA, 7.0 K/9, and 3.1 BB/9 in 741.1 IP. There are a few small differences, Billingsley has a better ERA and slightly better K rate, this has led to a better career record as well, but he has also pitched basically an extra season on Danks. The point being I believe this extensions serves as the perfect example for the White Sox and Danks. Something like this contract would provide Danks good guranteed money, a smaller commitment for the Sox, and still allow Danks to become a free agent at a young age. Thoughts?

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 28, 2011 -> 12:02 PM) The first couple months are fairly brutal. April 1 - June 1 58 games. 35 road, 23 home 4 at TB, NY, Tor 3 at Bos 9 game road trip Seattle, Anaheim, and Oakland If the Sox are 30-28 on June 2, I'll take it. Then it's time to start kicking butt after that when it's more home/interleague/and divisional games. The Sox are going to have to be a 2nd half team...they have no other choice. r This is actually not so bad, id rather play more home games in the warmer months of June/July/August where our team can really take advantage with power. We get to play at the Yanks and Red Sox at a time where they too will be "waiting for the warmer, slugger happy" weather to come around. We play the Yanks and Red Sox early where they usually get off to a slow start as well.

QUOTE (jphat007 @ Mar 27, 2011 -> 12:50 PM) LOL. I started laughing as soon as you said "after watching this spring". Hahaha hilarious, I bet after April and May last year he was also ready to say blow it up, fire everyone, then by July the team was in first place.

White Sox have re-signed right handed pitcher Dexter Carter, per Mark Gonzales of the Tribune. Carter, who was recently cut by San Diego, was part of the Jake Peavy trade in 2009.

I have had a lot of converstations about Dunn's spot in the everyday lineup and I have also heard a lot of conversations about him. What does the soxtalk community think, is there a consensus on whats best. His career 162 game average is .250/.381/.521/.902 with 40 HR and 98 RBI. I have heard people say he belongs batting third becuase the high OBP extends the first inning of the game, or his high HR total allows for a first innings go ahead HR (something that batting 4th isn't guranteed). I have heard people say he should bat 4th, sandwhiched between sluggers becuase he will get more fastballs and opportunities to drive in more runs or hit multiple run HRs. I have heard people say he strikes out too much and should not bat 3rd becuase he helps shorten the first inning. So which one is it. Where is the best spot for him.

There are a ton of posts in this thread on Humber, should we be patient, should we expect a lot, etc. After watching the game against he cubs isnt it obvious. Hes a former first round pick becuase hes got good stuff and potential, but just watching him pitch hes got very little command and control. He works from behind in the count a whole bunch as a result. He reminds me of Daniel Hudson actually, good stuff, still raw in terms of pitching. Humber, like Hudson doesnt seem to be able to command his fastball and breaking ball in the strikezone, meaning he cant control where it ends up in the zone, and cant control the run on his fastball. His control wasn't all that great either, he was simply pitching 2-0 and 3-1 a lot. And I think if you read a scouting report on his career it would say exactly that, good stuff, command/control lacking. So who knows what will happen, it appears he will have some good games and have some bad games as a White Sox starter, he does not appear to be a long term solution, but could be servicable for a little bit. If I was going to guess he is going to look just like Daniel Hudson did for us last year.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 23, 2011 -> 09:06 PM) You can't go by Forbes numbers. They say the Sox make at least $20 million in profit for the past 6 or 7 seasons. Listen to the White Sox. They break even every year. Its tough becuase as a private organization the Sox dont have to disclose what they do with the money or where it goes. From the $210M in revenue sure some goes to payroll, and we know that figure, but how much goes to sox employees and benefits, how much goes to stadium operations, how much goes to scouting, drafting, player development, how much goes to their lease, etc. Also, operating income doesnt really do much, at least not anything than more an increase in revenue would anyway. The sox have said ime and time again they run their organization to break even and win the world series. Every dollar they take in they spend on the team and organization, so we would have a higher payroll or budget for the draft with higher revenue regardless of profit. Having a $26M operating income means that the team basically found some way to save some money or make some new money that wasnt there before and tips the balance of money in vs money in a positive way. Assuming the sox do what they always do they will find a way to invest that money into the ballclub, stadium, or a special project of some sort.

The White Sox trade whats left in their farm system for Carl Everett and Roberto Alomar, both file reinstatemnt papers upon the trade, but are the first players to be rejected on reinstatement by MLB offices.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 20, 2011 -> 01:52 PM) The story has broke as shoulder problems unrelated to his surgery. Not many details out there as of yet. That was the knock on Peavy when KW acquired him, that hes was "Injury Prone", I believe for whatever reasons he definatly is and always will be.

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Mar 20, 2011 -> 11:46 AM) i think it was over before it even started. i knew there was no way it would be tehean, we know ozzie is a defense type guy Yeah thats what I was trying to say as well. Was it not obvious that Ozzie hated the notion to Tehean playing 3B after he butchered the position time and time again last year and even caused ozzie to blow up after that game in Detroit last year. I took this from an article on breakingsports.com from after the 5-1 loss in detroit on Sept 8th 2010. DETROIT -- After third baseman Mark Teahen committed two throwing errors that led to the White Sox's 5-1 loss at Detroit, manager Ozzie Guillen is considering moving Omar Vizquel to third in Thursday's series finale if Gordon Beckham can tolerate enough pain in his right hand. "I believe in defense," Guillen said.

QUOTE (qwerty @ Mar 19, 2011 -> 06:19 PM) He only has one pitch and was bad in the chances he had to close. I wouldn't do it. Me too there are much more important times in the 7th or 8th innings where we need Thornton and he has shinned before. Are you really going to save Thornton for the 9th innings when your playing the twins and your protecting a 1 run lead or tie in the 8th inning with runners on base and Mauer, Morneau, or Thome coming up. The game could be on the line right then and there and your not going to go with your best option, but you are going to use him in the hypothetical 9th innings against who knows perhaps their worst 3 hitters. Makes no sense. As we have seen time and time again, anyone with good stuff and control can close games. Those last 3 outs are meaningless 90% of the time. The most important parts are in 7th and 8th innings protecting ties and 1 run games with runners on and their best sluggers up.

Ozzie can say whatever he wants but actions speak louder than words. Everyone remembers Teahen butchering the 3B position time and time again last year, ozzie even erupted after his multi error game in Detroit late last year that defiantly cost us that game. If his defense is a true liability, he wont be there, period.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 12, 2011 -> 02:23 AM) Then they would be down several resources that they either don't have or will need. And had that happened, Sale wouldn't be in the bullpen (which wouldn't have been bad, but is beside the point), so the bullpen would be about the same going into the season anyways. I know, I dont live in a vacuum. I was saying more like fantasy baseball, or assuming the white sox had more money to spend, and they were linked to Soriano with some rumors. I was just gesturing like wow "what if we could", I wasn't actually implying that we should have signed Soriano for $12M+ and let AJ/PK walk or anything like that.

Just think how good the White Sox pen would be if they actually added an all star closer to this pen. If they actually got Rafael Soriano or traded for a Health Bell. Wow that would have made the best bullpen I have ever seen.

QUOTE (knightni @ Mar 10, 2011 -> 01:06 AM) Replay at 3am if anyone's awake! Like Bart Scott once said "CANT WAIT"

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 9, 2011 -> 09:56 PM) The Harrell thing is passable. Beckham hitting at the bottom of the order? That's a mistake. Also...Hazel Mae should do Playboy. Hazel Mae is sexy as hell

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Feb 27, 2011 -> 11:13 AM) Oh wow, 20 bucks says, that is the opening day lineup, barring an injury of course.. Still not liking Rios in the 3 hole. All I know is I want my higher OBP guy in front of Dunn. I want him seeing the most pitches with men on base. I dunno if that means Rios or Konerko in front of Dunn but thats what needs to happen.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Feb 25, 2011 -> 01:36 PM) Didn't see this posted anywhere, but Baseball Tonight will be at Sox Spring Training today at 2:30 CT on ESPN. Just a heads up. Cant wait to see how many names they botch or blank on during the broadcast.

There is no way the Cards trade a young cost controlled player like Rasmus who has shown great upside both offensively and defensively for Mark Buehrle at 2 years $29M (his 1/15 options vests if traded). That would be a great trade for the sox in terms of getting a younger player coming into his prime vs. trading away an older player on the other side of the performance hill. Then we have the issue of essentially having a 3 man rotation while the team is in win now mode (until Peavy comes back). Then we have the issue of having absolutely no where to play him in this year, in order to play him in the OF either Quentin or Pierre goes to the bench (pretty expensive bench players). So despite all of us wanting Rasmus, the Cardinals needing pitching, and Buehrle having a cardinals boner, this deal makes ZERO SENSE.

Will in the meantime if you apply the Pythagorean formula you can assume what you will need to be a 90+win team. Last year the Sox scored 752 runs and gave up 704 runs, thats good for a win percentage of about .532, so 162*.532 = 86 wins. Last year we won 88 games, so we outperformed the formula by 2 games, which is still well within the Standard deviation which has been about 4.5 wins the last few years. So what will it take to win the division, 90 wins, 92 wins? Well to finish with 92 wins the sox are going to need to score about 30 more runs (780) and give up about 30 less (670). That would yield a win % of about .568, so 162*.568 = 92 wins. Is that do able with the additions we made? What needs to happen to reduce the number of runs our pitching staff allows?

QUOTE (chw42 @ Feb 22, 2011 -> 05:32 PM) Not yet. There will be soon. CAIRO has them up already and I think BP will have theirs up soon. Sweet post here when they become available.

I think this may have been shown in another thread, I can remember, but does anyone know where to find projections for a team Runs Scored and Runs Allowed. I would be nice to see the projections for the Sox and other AL teams and then apply the Bill James Pythagorean formula: W%=[(Runs Scored)^1.81]/[(Runs Scored)^1.81 + (Runs Allowed)^1.81]. This would reveal a pretty accurate projection for season wins, which can be used for awesome knowledge/gambling. Anyway, does anyone have a link or source for those RS and RA projections per team (BP, Pecota, Zips, etc).

QUOTE (dmbjeff @ Feb 21, 2011 -> 11:28 PM) KW is full of it. He is this same guy who tried to trade for ARod a few years back. $25 mil, $30 mil, it's all crazy money. Its not KW's money.