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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 27, 2014 -> 01:14 PM) I think the opposite. No one seems to care any more because the Cubs have been bad for so long. Even my Cub fan friends can't stand talking baseball. From a fans point of view I agree, I think there is much more bad blood between the organizations now than there ever was when the Trib owned the Cubs. The Trib was a business partner with the Sox after all since they broadcast their games

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2014 -> 12:43 PM) Except Drew is still a free agent, hasn't played at all this year, and would need how long to be in game shape? Every day that goes by means he is a another day further away from being a ready to go baseball player. For a hitter? A week in the minors probably suffices.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2014 -> 12:34 PM) Usually guys have high trade value because they play well. Even if Alexei isn't hitting .350, the guy has a ton of trade value. With the scarcity of respectable SS's around baseball, getting a plus defender, a plus baserunner, and even an average hitter is a big deal. Unless he continues playing this well, I would think a team would sign Stephen Drew before trading a Texiera-type package for Ramirez.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2014 -> 12:24 PM) Outside of the true core guys, Alexei has more trade value than anyone else on this team. In a rebuilding situation, you have to maximize that, if you are going to trade him. That's because he is playing very well. If the Ramirez of last year comes back his trade value slides.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2014 -> 12:11 PM) The problem is scarcity. How many other SS's are out there on the market? I know dumping Cubans for nothing is in your gene's but it doesn't make sense. there's a big difference between "nothing" and Texeria-type package.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2014 -> 12:00 PM) They had better be looking for a Texeiria type return. For a 33 y.o. SS having a career year (month)? Good Luck.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 27, 2014 -> 07:47 AM) It could be Hanson next. I am surprised posters aren't up in arms over this move. Carroll is a non prospect and people here have been saying the White Sox are using this as a throwaway season. If that is the case, don't you leave a guy like Johnson in the rotation and let him take his lumps? I guess the biggest problem with that is the trickle down. The bullpen gets worn. It does prove one thing. The White Sox didn't have too many starters. No team ever does. We've seen over the years with the Sox the stress having no 5th starter has in a rotation with 4 decent-to-good pitchers which is why I was shocked they expected Paulino to fill the 5th spot with the question marks of Danks and Johnson. Hopefully, that stress did not cause a serious arm issue for Sale.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 26, 2014 -> 02:21 PM) Something tells me the risk/reward there doesn't make much sense. That seems like the kind of thing that would get a guy thrown out of the league. There are ways to get word through intermediaries, but it certainly is on the conspiracy side for sure. I think the Cubs/Sox rivalry has been kicked up a few notches since Theo took over and JR spearheaded the new rules for the draft and international spending that was surely directed towards the Cubs. Hoffman's soreness really throws a monkey wrench in the Sox draft plans. Do they deal with Boras, take a high school arm, or disregard the soreness and take Hoffman.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 26, 2014 -> 10:52 PM) Are these some of the bootleg websites you love to dismiss when they don't fit your narrative? I don't call out other posters mostly because even if I disagree with them, they can back up their claim logically instead of trampling into other threads and making the same baseless claims as if they haven't been disproven or thoroughly picked apart. Your shtick is old Marty, and it smells bad, and everyone sees it for what it is. Examples?

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 26, 2014 -> 01:33 PM) I don't recall 99 percent of this board doubting Abreu, even in his bad streak. The Johnson stuff in the game thread was ridiculous though It's odd that you call me out when there are other posters who contribute to legitimate websites, not internet message boards, where your critique is missing.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Apr 26, 2014 -> 12:29 PM) He had a chance to look so smart, being the 1st to declare Jose a failure and a waste of $68M. If that 1 for 25 stretch had only lasted a couple more days. Bummer. Yes, King of Soxtalk was within my grasp.

Curious about this Hoffman soreness. Chances Theo got to Hoffman and said miss a couple of starts with "soreness" and we'll give you 1-3 money if you get past the Sox?

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 26, 2014 -> 09:35 AM) I know someone who isn't convinced he is the real deal Kyle, this may surprise you, but I'd love nothing more than to be wrong about Abreu being the monster some on Soxtalk believe he will be. It would be a much-needed shot in the arm for this franchise. I've been wrong before and I'll be wrong again. When you choose to give an opinion, it could be wrong. One thing I won't do is hide behind some bootleg stat and say "if I knew he was going to do THAT ..."

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 22, 2014 -> 08:08 PM) What holes are you talking about? Right now, we have the following position player depth: 1B: Abreu 2B: Semien/M. Johnson SS: Ramirez/Semien 3B: Gillaspie/Davidson LF: Tank/Thompson CF: Eaton/Thompson RF: Garcia/Thompson DH: ??/Tank C: ?? So realistically we two major holes in DH and C. We should be able to fill the first one in free agency. I see no reason why we couldn't move prospects for a C. Again, trading a starter makes no sense for us. It's ok to keep Q and deal Johnson if that's the way it works out.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Apr 22, 2014 -> 08:00 PM) Downs just a waste of 4 mil plus Konerko wasted money. Keppinger and Paulino too.

1.) The Sox should not wait for Johnson to develop because of Sale's health. 2.) If Johnson does develop this year Q can be used to fill other holes.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 22, 2014 -> 07:29 PM) The guy who wants to replace 2 starters in a 5 man rotation. This is pretty simple. 5-2=3. One starter must be removed out of the other 4 to do that. Deal him, if not keep him and deal Q.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 22, 2014 -> 07:25 PM) So does everyone else here agree that we need to give up on Johnson? Who said anything about giving up on Johnson, that would be nuts.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 22, 2014 -> 07:17 PM) I agree with you Marty. Draft the best pitcher at 1-3 and sign the best free agent pitcher you can. IMO, Shields & Masterson both make perfect sense for us. Sign one of them, draft Hoffman, and our rotation outlook from 2015 to 2019 suddenly becomes pretty awesome. I think they are going to need three of the high-to-medium priced pitchers on the market and then take a chance on a guy for a year. Some combo of 2 starters and 2 relievers.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 22, 2014 -> 07:16 PM) The world's greatest pitching depth isn't coming through Or maybe it is just bad depth.

Pitching staff is in shambles with a week left in April.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Apr 22, 2014 -> 07:07 PM) Leesman isn't close to an MLB caliber pitcher. The organization badly needs to add some more pitching depth. This draft is incredibly important. It has to be a two-pronged approach draft and the free-agent market.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 22, 2014 -> 11:58 AM) This is Marty, don't expect him to read refuted arguments. This damages his own arguments Wouldn't be the first time you were laughably wrong in your haste to throw a dig my way.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 22, 2014 -> 05:59 AM) So true But this pitch count thing, we’re in the American League," Cooper said. "We’re not in Little League. But nevertheless, people that bring up pitch counts are people who have nothing else to really know. And it just blows me away. They’re doing that to say, ‘God forbid if someone goes down, I told you so.’ And these are people that are not in the arena and never really played, so what kind of validity does any of that hold? Not on the Coop bandwagon, but this is one hell of a correct quote.

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Apr 21, 2014 -> 09:53 PM) @scottmerkin 2m Hahn said they could have pushed Sale back and possibly had him ready for Sunday vs. TB. They weren't taking any chances If that's the case pushing him back until you have a team ready to compete makes more sense.