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QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Apr 20, 2013 -> 05:42 PM) Yes because this is the first time Konerko has handled an Alexei short hop. What?

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Apr 20, 2013 -> 05:34 PM) Konerko scoops that easily. He makes that play quite a bit. Please. Ball bounced too far in front for it to be scooped "easily".

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 20, 2013 -> 05:26 PM) konerko picks that. I don't think so. It was a bad throw, looked like he was unsure of whether to go to third or first.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 20, 2013 -> 03:07 PM) There should ahve been louder boos after that at bat. It's the sign of resignation.

I don't want to hear sabremetric thoughts while the game is going on, so I'm fine with Hawk's disdain for it. Agree with Jamshack about the elitism that has taken over the seamhead crowd in recent years. Funny, when outcomes go against the numbers, it's because of randomness or luck. I find myself a lot less accepting of "what the numbers show" than I used to be because of that.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 20, 2013 -> 10:14 AM) Not exactly unexpected. Hopefully it's legitimately minor and he can be swinging a bat again in a week or so. I don't think there's anything that can prevent Viciedo from swinging the bat.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 03:05 PM) Discuss. Also, apparently a scout told Keith Law (who was at the Charlotte game) that Mitchell was a "release candidate". Seems stupid to me to go THAT far, but, there it is. Last Sox first round pick not to appear in a game for the team I believe was Royce Ring, no? Jason Stumm was the last not to appear in a major league game I think.

Sale tipping pitches from the stretch? If he takes the ball out of his glove/puts it back in during his delivery, looks like it's a fastball. Or am I just seeing things?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 17, 2013 -> 12:29 PM) I don't have a problem with change if it's improving the team. I think Danks isn't very good, but I won't get bent out of shape over it. I'm just amazed by his popularity. You don't say.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 17, 2013 -> 12:25 PM) Do you think Danks will be an upgrade over this year? Quite possible. At least they are learning from their mistakes. Dan Johnson should have been on the roster in July.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 17, 2013 -> 11:46 AM) I already know. There isn't a long list of guys Jordan Danks' age with less than 100 career AB that has turned into anything but a back up. He'll be a good pinch runner, but if he's taking ABs away from anyone, the Sox, even with the way they have been hitting, will be weakened. I just don't understand that on a board where one or two bad games is a sign of how the every other game will go, how this guy is so popular. Your mantra last year was why change anything they're in first place. That didn't work out too well.

QUOTE (Dizzy Sox @ Apr 17, 2013 -> 10:05 AM) I just don't understand why we need Wise if Danks is on the roster. Danks has some upside at the plate Wise doesn't and his D is comparable if not a little better at this point. Yes, having another lefty bat off the bench is nice, but I'd even prefer having an extra backup in the infield (Morel?) over Wise. I agree. This is likely Danks last try out with the Sox if he succeeds Wise goes.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 17, 2013 -> 10:26 AM) For a guy who is older than Gordon Beckham and has a career .560 OPS, Jordan Danks gets an extreme amount of love around here. How does one conclude he is better than Wise? What are you afraid of finding out?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 17, 2013 -> 10:37 AM) Caleb Hanie syndrome Bad analogy as the worst starting outfielder on the Sox is nowhere near as good a player as Jay Cutler.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 06:58 PM) How about they wait until he turns 21 in June? We're talking about a kid who's currently hitting .250 in 10 games. I get that our offense has sucked and has been painful to watch, but that is not a good reason to rush a prospect who is probably already the youngest player in AAA. At least give him a few months, make him show he can hit AAA pitching for an extended period of time before calling him. And I couldn't disagree more about service time not mattering. Giving up a year of control of a good, young player for no reason is definitely stupid. How people can argue otherwise blows my mind. And again, let me reiterate that winning would be a good reason to forego service time. Unfortunately, there aren't a lot of other good reasons. Service time matters for once-in-a-generation prospects (Harper, Trout.) Should be taken into consideration for elite prospects (Stanton), but for the rest should not matter.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 06:22 PM) Even the Cubs fans are already tired of their rebuilding and it's only year 2. I'm sure 100 losses would really put faith back into the organization for Sox fans. Marty made plenty of outlandish statements in his time, but this one takes the cake IMO. This might be a 90-loss team.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 06:19 PM) I don't think the threat of a fire sale will help future ticket sales. With this team it won't hurt.

They need to to put the annual word out that if this slow start continues this team will be broken up. Not for the players to play better, but for the fans to gain a little faith in the organization.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 04:25 PM) So what's the big picture benefit of calling up Carlos Sanchez right now? You don't think the White Sox are capable of winning this year, so unless you think he'll develop faster at the major league level (which makes no sense) I can't see a benefit to waste his service time. Not advocating bringing him up right now just saying service time does not matter. That said, he is in AAA so the organization thinks he's close. I don't think they're going to wait until he's 23 or something before he's promoted.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 03:50 PM) But I think this process has started. Rushing it will only ensure you get less value out of the assets you use -- both talent and dollars. And those questions of positions are extremely important, ESPECIALLY if you advocated a scorched-Earth approach to rebuilding because if you don't have them covered, where are you when the core you want exists in a few years? You still have a bunch of other positions to fill and you dumped all of your tradeable assets for pennies on the dollar. I think the longer you hold on to Rios, Peavy, and maybe even De Aza beyond this trade deadline the lesser their trade value will be. As far as position goes, unfortunately because of the state of our minors, I would not make position a priority in any trade that's made.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 03:23 PM) I assume you mean get rid of when you say "salvage." So, trade away a decent lead-off guy who plays decent defense, a good starting pitcher who eats innings, a guy who is the team's best offense producer, two good bullpen arms, and a power hitting first baseman/DH for maybe two starters? Okay. Who and for what positions? How much money are the Sox going to have to eat? Who ends up in CF? Who ends up in RF? Who fills the gaps left in the bullpen? Do the Sox even win 65 games? I can't answer your questions and to me they're not very important. The Sox desperately need cheap offensive talent regardless of position.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 03:06 PM) He is an incredibly loyal man because loyalty breeds security which takes pressure off which allows for people to do their job. When people feel pressured and have low job security, they tend to fail more often. Reinsdorf has been perfectly fine as an owner and CEO. 30 years, 5 postseasons, and 1 World Series. That simply isn't good enough.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 02:24 PM) Definitely. That's what I mean about making sound long-term investments. The downside is that you have to wait for those opportunities to come rather than just deciding to go Blue Jays/Marlins one year. We would have to be content that the changes our team makes for next year may simply not be enough for next year. But, if those changes don't hurt us AFTER next year, then we'll be improving from a better base from then on. My view is to salvage anything on this team aside from Sale, Santiago, and Quintana to start rebuilding that offense. Between Rios, Peavy, De Aza, Reed, Crain, and Konerko hopefully they can find at least 2 everyday starters.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 02:24 PM) When they bring someone up to try to develop them you'll just get tired of them and want to trade them. Why, because I have formed an opinion on Viciedo?

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 02:06 PM) I don't think that's how it is though -- it's spending money as necessary to make sound investments in improving your team every year. Ideally, the money you spend nds up being on resources that produce long-term value. So it's NOT going for broke on the free agent market unless you have the chance to acquire a good buy, and it's NOT trading everyone for whatever you can get unless you feel like you are getting the better end of the deal. Very rarely do teams go from horrible to winners, much more frequently they go from decent to better, to winners. True, but this seems to corrolate with age. They have to get younger.