fathom

I thought the end of the year final offer call was more to eliminate 2 of the 6 teams.

Well if the Sox were in on Harper still and trying to do a sneak attack on the Phillies, they sure as hell would have not told Bruce or Bob they were in on him.

They didn’t go from 7/175 to 8/250 just like that. As Hahn even said, it was news to him that the offer dropped 70 million when he was at a hockey game.

The irony is someone on here said that night was when the Padres got serious about Manny.

Always seemed like the Sox were playing not to lose instead of putting on full court press.

This is exactly what you have said

They didn’t want to bid against themselves. They thought 250 was enough, so why go to 300?

Yep Sox never had a “home field advantage” in this recruitment

The simplest explanation is the Sox thought they were high bid and no one was offering 300. They were wrong and Lozano wasn’t bluffing. Instead of admitting to blowing it, KW brings up then 300 obstacle as a way to try and rationalize the error.

Him saying he’s never been more ticked off in his fucking life seems more hostile than that

If it was that cut and dry, I doubt KW would have been so pissed.

Well said...the Sox clearly thought they were getting Manny, so why wouldn’t that be the information that insiders are being provided. It’s not like anyone claimed to be getting info from Lozano or Manny, etc.

They’re basically the exact opposite in terms of prestige right now.

Of course they’re delusional, they think players want to play for a manager that will bench you at the slightest hint of not running hard down the line.

I will say if the Sox did sign Harper, there would never be a more fitting use of the Dumb and Dumber “completely redeem yourself” gif

Yep the Padres contract would have been perfect if the Sox got him with that.

Doesn’t sound serious thankfully

I’m sure Yonder did a great job recruiting. John Calipari couldn’t get someone to change their mind for a guaranteed 50 million.

Don’t forget bailing out the Indians by taking all of Alonso’s deal. Would he even get a major league contract if he was a FA? How about Josh Harrison signing for less than McCann today?

Yeah that was an awesome 48 hours or so with 3 major signings.

I’m not buying the 300 limit...to me it’s a convenient excuse instead of saying they thought Lozano was bluffing that they had 300 on the table.

Because they misjudged the market and thought getting those guys would make Manny more willing to accept lower deal than expected

And every acquisition looks like an overpay compared to what the market ended up being.

Let’s wait and see what happens over the next month. If it ends up with nothing more taking place, it will easily be the worst because they literally accomplished exactly the opposite of what they said they wanted to. As I said yesterday, would much rather see Avi than Alonso.

Let’s see how Cooper adjusts to the new era of baseball. I have my doubts he will adjust.