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QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:16 PM) The Nationals I meant the Sox

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:15 PM) Why would they ever think it would be less? 6 years is one thing but 4-5 years you do it, IMO. It was never realistic to expect him to take anything less than 4 at minimum. Again, who said they want him for more than 3 years?

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:14 PM) Typical White Sox. They wonder why their attendance numbers dwindle each year & it's because of this type of stuff. Let your division rivals get better & not complete the plan. They were never going to compete with that Upton contract

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:09 PM) No pick attached considered... Potential decline in performance over the later years included... I still say give him 5/110 and roll the dice for 2016/2017. But that decline in performance in later years and a huge contract could cripple the team as they try to keep the core together.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:50 PM) But David Robertson fits into that scenario how exactly? Which is exactly why I think the 3 year limit has more to do with the guys that were available instead of an organization philosophy.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:47 PM) I think it's the aftermath damage control that is going to irritate me more than him going to the Nats I'm sure we'll here "Yoenis woke up Wednesday thinking he'd be a White Sox, but the Nats blew him away with an offer"

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:44 PM) Exactly when in this current plan can fans reasonably expect to compete for the playoffs again? This year, maybe they just don't have the money in the budget. Who knows, maybe they are also cutting down on long-term expenses to eventually sell? So much more to things than just claiming they're being cheap.

Cespedes to me is like a 5 star recruit your college team is going after, and everyone knows he'll be high-maintenance to keep happy when he's at your school.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:40 PM) The only thing you can think is there is massive behind-the-scenes badness with Cespedes. The whispers of that with Puig are all over the place, but not Cespedes. Slight primadonna behavior but whatever, that's about it I would say it's more than slight. More stories have come out about him being a diva than just about anyone I can recall when they were a free agent.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:39 PM) They played the market wrong and got caught. They'll pay for it at the deadline is they are even close enough to a playoff spot. How so, it's not like they couldn't have changed their mind on the 3 year length if they wanted to. Quite frankly, I don't think they trusted any of these 3 outfielders on a lengthy deal.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:37 PM) Slit my throat for me Bob NightengaleVerified account ‏@BNightengale The biggest surprise now is if #Nats don't sign Cespedes. They appear to be the only team interested in giving him longer than 3-year deal. How is this not a massive red flag to everyone?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:37 PM) But the problem here is we were passed by Detroit, and still have to catch KC and Cleve...and just might be even with the Twins, who happen to have one of the better farm systems in the game again under Ryan. Well of course Sox are going to be awful if nearly everyone on the team underachieves again like 2015.

Funny how Mets fans want him to go to the Sox now

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:30 PM) They targeted Frazier and Lawrie and got both of them..... +1

QUOTE (staxx @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 07:56 PM) Not at all. No one ever expected or thought we could sign Cespedes this offseason. Getting Frazier and Lawrie has been fantastic along with the C change. Id give it an B+ right now, with a solid A/A+ if Cespy signs. Don't worry, "yes" is getting 75% of the votes

White Sox Talk ‏@CSNWhiteSox Jan 19 If the #WhiteSox don't sign Cespedes, is the offseason a disappointment? Nice poll

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 06:06 PM) I wonder if they could be done with Zimmerman. Move Werth into 1B and fill out the OF with Harper, Revere, and Cespedes, dramatically improves defense and doesn't make them reliant on Zimmerman ever being healthy and regaining form. Thats the only scenario that makes much sense to me. Or they know Zimmerman is going to get busted for PEDs

No doubt in my mind that they have had communications with the other options

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 04:47 PM) It's not the case. Don't people read? I mean f***ing seriously.... Again, who has said more than 3 years has been offered by the Sox?

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 04:39 PM) The Nats just don't make sense for him. But they have a window so they could be going all out. Also probably think it hurts the Mets as well

QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 04:34 PM) They just better hit the secondary market pronto if Cespedes doesn't come to Chicago. Can't start the season with Avi in right...please. In all honesty, Hahn's job should be on the line this season

QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 04:32 PM) If they add Fowler, or Desmond, they will be viewed for what they are. Also rans. Second rate...unwilling to compete. No Cespedes? Hahn better have some big trade up his sleeve. Adams for Cargo? Something to show an honest effort to improve the team...and that ain't Fowler, IMO. Before last season, Desmond had been a significantly better player than Cespedes

BTW, Cespedes and Dusty could be a horrible combination

QUOTE (staxx @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 04:26 PM) I don't see anywhere on Nightengale's twitter where he says the Nat's offer is the "strongest". Maybe im missing something Supposedly on MLB network

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 04:23 PM) Could end up as a blessing in disguise. If I knew the Sox were going to take the money they're offering Cespedes and use it elsewhere, I'd be totally fine with that. Just don't want to see them not get Cespedes and say he was a special circumstance and that they're going to stick with Avi.