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QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 23, 2012 -> 01:09 AM) Denard is such an awful passer. They put together a great drive and than call a stupid halfback pass. So bad. One of the uglier halves of football you'll ever see

Hawk "Haren has nothing on the mound" = first two hitters strike out

Um, how was that 0-1 pitch to De Aza a strike? Ok, someone's getting tossed tonight.

QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 23, 2012 -> 02:01 AM) What is our record in games when ADA hits a leadoff bomb? The last two that I remember, we lost. Lost the Verlander one also.

8 completions, 6 interceptions in the ND/Michigan game.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 23, 2012 -> 01:22 AM) That's so true. I try to point that out when people say s*** like that. Yep, you can be upset about Hudson not being in the organization still, but Gio is long gone to me.

How is Denard Robinson still such a terrible passer?

QUOTE (zenryan @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 11:59 PM) I havent been so happy and so proud of a Miami team like I am today in a long long time. Still a long ways to go to being a Top 25 team but what a win. Paul Johnson showed such a lack of balls by not trying to ice the game with about 2 minutes left by going for it on 4th an 1. GT fans are about ready to run his smug ass out of town.

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 09:55 PM) ugh 6-0 Think on the bright side (and I'm being sincere). No matter what, when we wake up tomorrow, the Sox will still be in first place. Without the rain out last night, it could easily have been tied after tonight. Hopefully the Sox beat up on Haren tonight and we can still be in first place come Monday.

6-0 Tigers

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 08:51 PM) Indeed. It's still sucks though. That's why I hate the long baseball season. All that for nothing. They need to shrink it to a 150 game season. Or maybe the White Sox offense can find a way to not fade during the 2nd half of seemingly ever season this century.

Tigers game is just about over it seems. Cabrera and Prince are just playing out of their minds.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 09:47 PM) This. I'm getting tired of going to bed with a knot in my stomach. I was probably more nervous a week ago. Now, kinda like what rowand proclaimed a few posts ago, it seems like the writing might be on the wall if this team doesn't play better.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 09:44 PM) nope, he threw a bullpen session today and says he feels great and ready to go. That's fantastic news

QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 08:38 PM) I think it was pretty fair to presume the Tigers would take care of the Twins this weekend...the doubleheader is a break in that it probably makes it a touch more difficult for them to sweep. Let's hope we can win at least one and come out of the weekend with a one game lead. Anything else is just gravy in my opinion. I actually think the DH makes it easier for them, as Tigers are more likely to go with their main lineup both games while Twins might mix and match.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 08:37 PM) I'll be very curious to see how Scherzer looks tomorrow night. Seems odd that he'd be able to turn around and start throwing hard again after straining the shoulder muscle, but who knows? So they're not holding him out for a start?

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 08:34 PM) 2-0 kitties Tigers offense seems like they're getting a ton of base runners every game right now.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 08:04 PM) We're at that time of year where you just want to wake up in first place. It's bend but don't break time. But to be realistic, considering the Tigers are playing 7 vs KC and 6 vs Minnesota, I think the best we should hope for is 8-5 for the Tigers, and that would leave the Sox having to go 7-5 to win the division. But again, the Sox will wake up in first on Sunday, and they'll try to make it to Monday still in first. And so on until October 4th or 5th. Give me a one game lead come Monday, and I'm happy. 2 games, and that's a minor miracle.

I decided to look up some 2nd half numbers to see if anyone was performing better than they did in the first half. Of the main guys on the team, the only players with a higher batting average since the ASB than before it are: - Dunn (.208 before, .210 after) - Ramirez (.266 before, .275 after) Konerko was .329 before, and .266 after. Quietly, Rios is hitting .045 points worse in the 2nd half. Youk's .065 points lower in the 2nd half. As for the pitching, Floyd, Jones and Santiago have shown the most improvement since the ASB. Peavy's ERA is 1.35 runs higher, Sale's is 1.46 higher, Crain/Thornton about .8 runs higher, Reed's ERA was 4.06 before the ASB and 5.91 after. Quintana's ERA was 2.04 in the 1st half, and 5.06 in the 2nd half. Honestly, I'm not quite sure how this team has managed to stay in first this long. Guys like Flowers, Wise and Veal have contributed a lot since the ASB.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 02:58 PM) There were many questions about many of the same players prior to the 2012 campaign, and many of them worked out just fine. Who plays third, who is beckham, is konerko done yet, what about rios and Dunn, etc. Question #1: Can Chris Sale be an effective starter Compared to this time last year, the Sox future seems much more stable to me.

Thanks for posting that ss2k. Question is, what type of impact does this extreme amount of innings/pitches have on his arm next year?

QUOTE (Baron @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 03:37 PM) How many teams right now with a 3rd baseman that can hit and play decent defense are saying " We need to trade him right now!" ?. Probably none. Which is why Youk will be on this roster next year. Youk has turned into a 1 tool player, being that he can hit for power. He's limping towards the finish line right now. I love the production he gave us the first few months he came over, but it seems to be in the best interest of the Sox to look at other options this offseason. At most, I'd offer him a 1 year, 5 million dollar deal. If he wants more money/more years (which seems like a given), then you thank him for his contributions and wish him luck.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 01:53 PM) Especially when you consider 2013: Who plays 3B? Probably someone that no one has mentioned on this site Do we trade Ramirez or hold onto him waiting for some of our other (outfield) prospects to develop? Ramirez shouldn't be going anywhere, as it's not like he makes a ton of money and it's not like Profar is waiting in the wings to replace him. Is Konerko really slowing down finally, or is it simply the wrist/bone fragment issue bothering him? Clearly injured What will we get out of John Danks? Probably a lot of runs allowed after the Sox score Quintana in sophomore campaign? He'll be fine as a #5 starter Will the real Gordon Beckham please stand up? I'd rather he crouch What will be Santiago's role? Starter hopefully Can Addison Reed, Jesse Crain, Thornton and Jones be counted on? You can really never count on any relievers from one year to the next Which Veal will show up, the journeyman or reincarnation of Neal Cotts 2006? Cotts never had the type of stuff that Veal did to make lefty hitters uncomfortable at the plate. Can Dunn and Rios repeat? If not for last season, people would be saying Dunn was having a bad season. Rios will probably be a little worse next year, but he should be better than he was last season due to the changes to his mechanics. Does Viciedo have a role on this team if DeAza's not going to want to play CF? They'll make De Aza play CF. If he doesn't want to be, then he'll probably be the one dealt and not Viciedo. Is Wise actually a part of the 2013 plans at this point? If it's as a 4th outfielder/reliever, then why not? He's better than JorDanks Where will AJ, Youk, Peavy, Floyd, Crain and Thornton end up to start 2013? White Sox, Cubs, Dodgers, White Sox, White Sox, Red Sox

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 02:20 PM) Thanks Jake. That's not what we were looking for, but I'm sure you gave 120%. Can he just pitch only against the Twins? 4 of his 11 wins this year have been against them. 4.20 ERA for Peavy in the 2nd half, but I blame that just as much on abusing him earlier in the year with regards to too many pitches.

So what was Hawk saying during the game that was so negative about the Sox? Oh, please move Beckham to the 2nd spot, as Youk is too easy of an out right now.