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Ugh, bad start. Too many fastballs at the same level. Where's Reed??

Darn, that could have been an inside the parker.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 11:21 PM) bad feeling about our offense today. Keep em close Q. I'll be honest, I don't get the refusal to give Danks a start against a righty who's significantly tougher against righty hitters.

4 K looking already...big zone or bad pitch recognition?

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 11:13 PM) Ok, let me rephrase that. Would it be evident that big name players who play under Ozzie Guillen are more likely to have uncharacteristic down years? Hard to say that, as for every Dunn or Hanley, there's a 2004-2011 Paul Konerko.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 10:03 PM) Hypothetically speaking, if Ozzie got the boot at the end of the year and went to another team who signs big free agents in the off-season and those big time players uncharacteristically struggle in 2013 like they have with the Marlins or the 2011 White Sox; would it be overwhelming evidence that it's Ozzie's fault? No, it's never solely the manager's fault.

Watching the front office for the Marlins talk yesterday was like deja vu of the Sox season last year. They were shocked at how guys with track records like Reyes and Hanley could be struggling so much. I'm not trying to start a war saying that it's Ozzie's fault those guys are underachieving so much this year, but it does seem like a very similar situation.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 06:16 PM) BJ Upton, bases clearing double. 4-0 Rays over Indians, bottom 6 You have to think Angels are going to acquire another starter so they can stop pitching Jerome Williams (until Haren returns).

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 05:38 PM) 3-0 Tigers, top 3. They're hot, and Fister now has back-to-back great starts. If they go 52-29 the final 81, nothing to do but tip the cap. That means 43-27 the rest of the season. cough 2nd wild card cough I honestly believe it will be a battle between the White Sox and Red Sox

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 06:35 PM) really clicking. Big 2 out hits, Avila and Boesch starting to get hot. Going to be a tough weekend. If Boesch, Jhonny and Avila are tough outs, that offense will be extremely tough to shut down with their superb 1/3/4 hitters. Good thing we have our all-stars going this weekend.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 06:20 PM) I think this is going to be a huge game tonight, especially if the Tigers win today. Don't want to roll into Detroit having lost 3 of 4 and face a team that has a chance to sweep and take over 1st place. Tigers up 3-0 in the 2nd already. Sucks they didn't have to face Weaver, as Jerome Williams has been terrible of late. That Tigers offense seems to be clicking.

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 03:05 AM) so with what rizzo did to the sox, you want them to win? I'm sure we'll never know the whole story.

I'd like to see the Nats trade for Denard Span. If they can find a way to keep Strasburg fresh for the postseason, there is no team with a better 1-2-3 in the postseason than they have with Strasburg, Gio and Zimmerman.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 03:36 AM) WhyTF is there a Miami Marlins thread? Where's the Pirates thread? The Marlins thread should be called Trolling for Greg. People know where Greg's weakness is and they blame him for their exploitation. Major Yawn. Greg can't let it go and a majority of members don't want him to either. (mods included) I've actually thought of suggesting a thread for each individual team.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 03:17 AM) Liriano continuing to improve his trade value. Hopefully he gets traded soon and misses the start vs the Sox next Monday.

QUOTE (Caesar @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 03:11 AM) Wish I wouldve been wrong. Offense gave up after the first. At least Dallas was good tonight. Didn't realize they didn't get a hit after the 2nd batter of the 2nd inning. Overmatched tonight, time for Q to excel tomorrow.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 02:10 AM) About the only positive is it keeps Berry out of the line-up... Only against the tough lefty, they've been playing both in the OF with Jackson of late.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 03:09 AM) Tigers winning. Today was definitely one of those days I would have been content with Sox losing as well as Tigers lost. Gotta find a way to win tomorrow or have the struggling Jerome Williams find a way to beat the Tigers and go into the weekend series at least up 2.5 games.

Nice redemption inning for Septimo

I've missed a few games, but when's the last time Beckham pulled a ball?

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 02:57 AM) Sox down 10-1, Tigers win 7-2, Indians come back from 4-0 to lead 8-4. Eff this night. Monday was awful, Tuesday was great, Wednesday was awful....Thursday should be great!

Boesch and Fister performing well is not what we want to see. Both have contributed a lot of late.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 01:57 AM) He will. He's not that bad guys, let's not get crazy. He may be a very valuable back of the rotation arm for us at some point. I've yet to see you say any player doesn't have a chance to be a contributor. If I'm Mr. Pessimism, you should be titled Mr. Optimism

Who?

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