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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 09:34 PM) Plus 1. I wanted him for that role. Unfortunatey he took more money. He'd also be a calming influence on Thornton right now also.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 09:32 PM) Cowley: And I agree. Yep

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 09:30 PM) And I get that. It just seems that, right now, it doesn't matter WHO Ozzie uses, they find a way to blow it, regardless of situation, regardless of anything. All of you are simply second guessing whoever Ozzie picks, they blow the game, and you ASSUME that if he had picked ANYONE else, it'd be different...kinda like how that other retard accused me of having nothing but inept opinions because I base on them on assumptions? I've never seen a stupider post from anyone on this board... Check the board, this is second guessing at all. Thornton for Buehrle and using Sale today were criticized well before the implosion took place.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 09:29 PM) Even if the Sox had the worst bullpen in baseball, its still a statistical anomaly that they have given up this many runs in the 9th inning. Eventually there will be a regression to the mean, its just annoying today. I bet that's what Arizona thought last year This is purely mental right now with them. I'm so freaking disappointed in Thornton. At this point, you hope his contract extension isn't a waste of money.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 09:28 PM) Have we gone down 1-2-3 in the last inning of all our losses? yes

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 09:27 PM) Holy s***, weaver and haren this weekend? We are f***ed. Yep, hopefully Dunn starts contributing again.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 09:26 PM) Um, ALL second guessing is done via assumption, just as every last one of yours are. You simply ASSUME that using Thornton off the bat, instead of Sale, results in a successful outing. See how that works, you jackass? Which makes your opinions inept, and f***ing retarded, quite frankly. All that matters is the f***ing result.

QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 09:25 PM) What do you even do at this point? I can't recall having this bad a problem in recent history. Make Santos the closer in about 5 minutes. Have Crain and Sale your set-up men, and use Thornton in the 7th inning for now.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 09:19 PM) Crain failed too. So did Thornton. So keep making excuses for members of the bullpen, because it wouldn't have mattered WHO Ozzie used. Crain got one guy out, and gave up one walk. That's better than we can hope for from anyone besides Santos.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 09:17 PM) Kenny Williams just punched something. Hopefully it's whomever told him that Thornton has the make up to be a closer.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 09:14 PM) It has to be Ozzies...despite him trying to use just about the entire bullpen, only to have every one of them fail...it's his fault. Keep making excuses for Sale starting the 9th. Pretty simple choice to use Crain there with 2 righties up.

QUOTE (TheBigHurt @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 09:12 PM) I can't believe just ONE aspect (the bullpen) of this otherwise fairly solid team is about as frustrating for me to watch as that damn 2007 season as a WHOLE... and it's barely been a week and a half worth of games. This is just brutal. Just like the leadoff issues 2 years ago and the DH issue last year, whenever there's uncertainty with a Sox position, you know the self-fulfilling prophecy of failure will occur.

Thornton is absolutely awful this season. What a freaking choker. Way to step up and take control of this bullpen. Serious issues with this bullpen now, as no one besides Santos seems to have confidence. Probably the most disappointing 7-5 record you can imagine.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 10:04 PM) Santos will blow a save and be the wrong choice in no time. Give it a few days. He would have been the wrong choice today to pitch after 2 innings yesterday.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 10:00 PM) the biggest thing is that ozzie comes out and says thornton is his closer in public, then deflates the guys confidence putting sale out there, then puts him in an impossible situation in which the likelihood of failing is high....its awful managing Sale threw 2 stressful innings last night. Even if he went 1-2-3 today, I would have felt like it was too much for him. When you also add into the fact that the 2 righties he faced today faced him last night, it's truly a pathetic decision by Ozzie.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 09:56 PM) couldnt disagree more...you say publicly the guy is your closer....so f***ing use him as your closer, not a rookie who pitched 2 innings 18 hours ago I have no idea why Crain didn't start that inning.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 09:53 PM) Thornton got 2 outs with he bases loaded. You cant blame Thornton for this one. Absolutely inexcusable to run Sale out there again.

Terrible managing, terrible execution by our bullpen.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 09:46 PM) Ozzie Guillen breaking some rules? What's he doing?

Can someone please give a f***ing update?

update please?

So Crain's in now, but he couldn't start the inning with 2 righties coming up?

Terrible decision to use Sale after he threw 2 innings yesterday. You can't tell me Crain wasn't available today??

QUOTE (DukeofChicago88 @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 07:47 PM) Don't stop now Boyzzzzzzzzzz Why would you say this? It's the rally killer!

How about a wild pitch!!