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That's just terrible baseball. Stop it!

Maybe we'll get to see Infante and Morel and Flowers tonight!

Pena will get Garcia's next start it seems. Makes sense with Ozzie holding off on using him in the 3rd.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 8, 2010 -> 12:21 AM) 1) Teahen just had a horrible reaction to a ball that Vizquel would have stopped. Scores on Damon's homer. One run. 2) Kotsay's error opened the floodgates. 4 runs Simply put, we didn't have a good enough lineup or starting pitcher to beat a good starter in Verlander tonight. Hopefully PK comes back soon, we really need some power in the lineup for those games when we can't string together 12 hits.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 7, 2010 -> 11:44 PM) Manny, a free swinger? Greg, come on, do you actually watch the games? I'm not sure if Manny walked during the 2005 ALDS. Wait, now I know why greg hates Manny, and loves Jenks. Jenks retired Manny in game 2 of the ALDS.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 8, 2010 -> 12:08 AM) Ugh I tried to read this thread but I guess I'm done with it, too many cringe-worthy posts in rapid succession from know-it-alls, and more asinine Thome talk. This is like the Brian Anderson debates all over again. Ha, I could only have imagined what would have happened if Anderson went to a team and hurt the Sox.

QUOTE (Mr. Showtime @ Sep 8, 2010 -> 12:18 AM) Is Orlando Hernandez available? 2005 Powers Activate! Don't get Greg excited! BTW, Garcia with nearly a 6 ERA since the ASB. It's funny how people still try to argue how great the Sox staff is compared to the Twins.

QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ Sep 8, 2010 -> 01:11 AM) he can follow guillen to the marlins That would be AMAZING...can we trade Ozzie for Logan Morrison?

QUOTE (dmbjeff @ Sep 8, 2010 -> 01:12 AM) miggy is the best hitter in the american league. i easily pitch around him to get to a hot journeyman any day of the week. i blast ozzie all the time, but not on that move there. Agreed completely, if Kotsay wasn't a mediocre defensive player, that inning never happens. Of course, pitching Harrell in a meaningful game is a recipe for disaster. 5th starter is now a huge concern going forward.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Sep 7, 2010 -> 11:53 PM) i don't think so. he's not hitting it as consistently hard as the 1st half of this season, but I think it's because pitchers are adjusting to him. He seems real susceptible to the outside breaking pitch with 2 strikes. League has also caught on that he'll take the first pitch almost every AB. That gets him behind in the count, and gives him one pitch to get a good swing at before the wipeout offspeed pitch in the dirt.

Time to shut down Garcia until he can actually pitch more than a few innings. And as Brian said earlier, let's hope he actually does sign elsewhere. No way you can keep counting on him.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 7, 2010 -> 09:52 PM) and strangely enough without a true DH they managed to go 25-5 with streaks of 11 and 9 sandwiched in there. Baseball is a funny game, and this team is as streaky as it gets. And strangely enough, 9 of those games took place without a DH in the lineup. I do agree though, this team is incredibly streaky.

This wouldn't be surprising. His swing looked very weak the last couple of days, as he was pushing the bat through the zone. Would hate for it to be true though.

Why was Beckham scratched?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 7, 2010 -> 06:52 PM) I'd still give Bobby a C or B- for the season. He's not been as bad as some say. You're right, he's been worse. His blown save in the first Twins series after the ASB seemed to change the entire momentum of the season for the Twins. Also, his inability to stay healthy during the 2nd half of the season led to the increased usage of Thornton and Putz, which could have contributed to their ineffectiveness and injuries. Let's just hope Sale manages to stay healthy and avoids a serious injury.

Worst playcall of the night was VT throwing on 3rd and long with a little over 2 minutes left. They should have let Tyrod run with it, and at least milk 40 more seconds off the clock. I'm thrilled Boise won....hard to root against them.

SALE

Nice catch Alexei...come on, don't let Cabrera bat!

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 6, 2010 -> 09:01 PM) While we all say "f*** you gordon you suck at baseball and are a mental midget omgggg" lets remember blasting ozzie for not moving him up in the order. Food for thought That was also when he was swinging the bat well. He hasn't looked good since he got HBP.

Wow, how slow is Beckham? Just a miserable game for him.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 6, 2010 -> 08:57 PM) The ball hung up, he could have gotten back to 2nd if it was caught. For a second it looked like the CF might get it and he had to play it safe because you cant get doubled off to end the inning there. He was 60 feet off the base when the ball dropped. It was a tough play, just happy it worked out.

How about another HBP??

AJ with the flare!! Way to go AJP

How about a WP?

I wouldn't be shocked to see the squeeze.