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Was it Carrasco that missed a Royals hitter in the first series after the ASB? This whole thing is so stupid, I have no problem with managers ordering pitchers to hit the opposition. The only time I have a problem with a pitcher throwing at a hitter is if it's in retaliation for a homer hit by the batter before.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Aug 4, 2008 -> 09:38 AM) Stopping at August 1st, in his last 168 games(going back to last year), he has put up a line of: .311, 41 HR, 106 RBI, 105 R, 3 SB. Best FA signing by the Sox ever? Great stuff...I agree with you, best Sox signing ever and already one of the top 10-15 most important Sox players in franchise history.

QUOTE (almagest @ Aug 4, 2008 -> 04:42 PM) Seriously. He threw 6 innings of shut-out ball in that horrid stadium against probably the worst team in the AL. He gave up 3 hits and 3 walks with 5 strikeouts. Good, but not great, numbers, especially the 3 walks. Guaranteed if Gavin went out there with the same line against the Indians in the Cell, people would be talking about how he's due to fall apart and the numbers are a fluke, blah blah blah. I think it has more to do with the massive, massive upgrade they made from Livan to Liriano, and how that is probably a 3-4 game swing in terms of wins for them the rest of the way. In all honesty, I don't think the Twins will play great baseball the rest of the way, especially with their schedule. However, the Sox are going to have to play above .500 baseball though, and won't be able to crawl their way across the finish line.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 4, 2008 -> 01:10 PM) Is this a joke? Believe it or not, you don't know more than scouts. Perhaps teams are shying away from a AAA 3B who turns 26 in 5 months and still strike out every other at-bat. I said it months ago that we wouldn't get much if we dealt Josh, because he's not as good as most want to believe. Actually it was from Joe Cowley, who said that KW knew he'd have to give up Fields in order to get a top-notch pitcher.

QUOTE (joeynach @ Aug 4, 2008 -> 05:41 AM) I think KW is already planning on make a run at either Orlando Hudson or try for Brian Roberts again. It appears that they have already made their minds that Alexi is going to be the starting SS and they are looking to pair another speedy lead off hitter type at 2B. They already tried to do this when they almost traded Ocab to the dodgers, moving alexi to SS and using the prospects from LA to get Roberts from the O's. I think its pretty obvious that the sox would love to strengthen their up the middle D for 2009, especially if we are going to live with fields at 3B. Alexi at SS, Roberts/Hudson at 2B, Swisher at 1B, and Anderson/Wise in CF, with Konerko/Thome DHing seems to be the best route here. It would also give us a pure leadoff hitter in Roberts or Hudson and Alexi is maturing into a nice high AVG, placido polanco like, #2 hitter. Then follow that with CQ, Dye, Konerko/Thome, Fields, and AJ and u still have plenty of power in the lineup. That's a pretty bad lineup. Swisher's offense is below average for a 1st baseman, and you know that Anderson will never get handed the starting spot in CF.

Javy is going the 3rd game of the series.

Here's the problem with how we handled Fields this year. AAA is full of pitchers with mediocre fastballs. Hell, if you want a guy to see good fastballs in the minors, AA is the league to go to. My brother recently saw 6 straight games started by pitchers who threw slower than 88 mph against the Durham Bulls.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 4, 2008 -> 05:03 AM) I almost feel sorry for Richard. My god have they teed off on him. There is no reason for him to throw another pitch for the big league team again this season. Next candidate, step up, son. Is it gonna be Haeger? I mean is it unanimous here that Richard cannot throw a pitch for the Sox again this season? He is brutal. Might as well be Poreda

Poreda had a great start today...it will be interesting to see if he gets called up.

QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 4, 2008 -> 02:28 AM) Umpiring has been brutal all over Major League Baseball. Not just against us as Hawk may think. It really seems like the umps have been terrible towards the Sox this year.

Between the awful called 3rd on Thome, the way the HBP were handled today, and the blown call at 2nd base that cost us two runs yesterday....I wouldn't mind not seeing this crew again.

QUOTE (tommy @ Aug 4, 2008 -> 03:10 AM) Floyd vs Robertson Danks vs Verlander Vazques vs Miner Buehrle vs Lester It's amazing how we've missed Galarraga all season.

Poreda's last minor league game?

What's the pitching match-up for the Sox this week?

QUOTE (tommy @ Aug 4, 2008 -> 03:02 AM) Forgot a catcher in there somewhere. Sorry, AJP for Konerko/Swisher.

I prefer: Ramirez, OC, Quentin, Thome, Dye, Griffey Jr, PK, Crede, Swisher

Do you think that if we had OC batting 2nd, that maybe Quentin would take more pitches in the 3rd spot? It seems like whenever AJP swings at first pitch, Quentin gets anxious as well.

QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Aug 4, 2008 -> 02:51 AM) We need Crede, Contreras, and Linebrink back. A lineup simular to this would be awesome, but most of all, the bullpen needs to pitch like they were when Joe Morgan said they might be the best bullpen ever. I still say he's the jinx. Cabrera Pierzynski Quinten Dye Thome Griffey Konerko Crede Ramirez Remember how awesome the bullpen was the day before Morgan said that? Matt Thornton looked like Billy Wagner against the Cubs, and Linebrink was amazing.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Aug 4, 2008 -> 02:44 AM) Legit information? We're in 2nd place. Thanks. I didn't think a real Sox fan would know this. You're the man. Here's an example of the information I wanted in here....information on A. Casilla was in about 5 different threads earlier in the week, and no one seemed to know what spot to put it in. And I know I'm not the first person to express disappointment in the catch-all threads, as information gets easily lost.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 4, 2008 -> 01:38 AM) Not me. I have no idea. But hey, Chicken Little might be appropriate, might not. Time will tell. Hell, change the whole name to the August Catch-All thread for the Sox if it makes people feel better. It would be nice to combine the catch-all for Sox with updates on Twins/Tigers.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Aug 4, 2008 -> 02:32 AM) If KW could have got Street for Fields and Poreda i garuntee you he makes the deal, but according to Cowley, the A's asked for Danks or Floyd to go along with Fields and Poreda. The asking price for guys like Fuentes and Street were beyond crazy. So i dont blame KW on this one. Thankfully he didn't trade Fields/Poreda for Street.

Who changed the title to "sky is falling"?

QUOTE (letsgoarow @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 09:35 PM) im saying we go 13-6...lets be positive. Everyone has a bad stretch especially with our 5th starter, 3rd basemen, and set up guy out at the same time Twins have been without Neshek, Cuddyer, and Liriano for most of the season, and their catalyst Casilla is now out. This is where having players in your minors that can come up and contribute right away is extremely important.

Crede isn't playing again today, and Contreras was clocked at 90 mph in the first inning. I honestly have doubts about all 3 of our guys coming off the DL to help again this year.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 09:44 PM) Cowley just said that Cederstrom apologized to the Sox for throwing Carrasco out. They looked at the tape and admitted they were wrong. There was nothing wrong with them tossing Carrasco.