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QUOTE (whitesox32 @ Jun 1, 2008 -> 11:34 PM) I'm all for getting Matt Holliday but it would take a ton to snatch him away from the rocks, something like fields, danks, broadway to start off I'd guess. Anyways I have a crazy idea what do u guys say to dumping thome and signing bonds? I am one of the biggest bonds haters there is and have been steadfast with my approach that if the sox ever signed him I would no longer be a white sox fan. however, I think that if ozzie and kw can get through to him that this team isn't all about you and if you become a distraction your gone. I would be able to live with bonds in a sox uniform for a couple months in an incentive laden deal if he could help the team. him clogging up the bases with intentional walks would be worth it in and of itself. what do u guys say? btw ozzie should have pinch hit quentin for crede They'd never go after Bonds, especially after the latest charges last month. And he should have ph CQ for Anderson or Swisher.

QUOTE (29andPoplar @ Jun 2, 2008 -> 12:29 AM) It is very good they have a day off tomorrow. I was waiting for the Guillen explosion, sure enough it happened. At the moment, the only possible move I see is Konerko to the DL. I am not sure the trade market is open at this point. Barry Bonds would look good on this team! I have a hard time seeing where we can make upgrades right now.

At this point last year, how many games were the Sox out of first?

Why is there even discussion about who should be playing 2nd base right now? Ramirez is giving us 2 to 3 terrific at bats every game. I never expected him to have the plate presence that he's showing so far. Hopefully he gets more comfortable on the bases, and starts being a threat there.

With the two Beckhams, Posey, Crow, Hosmer, Alvarez, Smoak, Skippy, and Alonso in the draft, you'd have to think we can get one of them. I wonder if Posey might not fall to the Sox?

QUOTE (29andPoplar @ Jun 2, 2008 -> 12:07 AM) Couldn't have said it better. Nicely stated. Maybe there will be a surprise transaction but I think this is a motivational ploy. These guys are too comfortable and something needs to get done. Konerko's AB in the 9th wasn't good, if Ozuna wasn't doing some heads up baserunning he wouldn't have even made 3rd. Crede didn't get it done and Swisher is dazed and confused at the moment. I just hope they play relaxed and have fun this homestand. The offense has been as bad as you can imagine, and they're still in first place in June.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 1, 2008 -> 11:04 PM) Keith Law now has the Sox thinking Jason Castro as SF is supposedly on G. Beckham right now. Where did you see this?

Gallagher, Rich Hill, Ceda, Patterson, Colvin, Donaldson, Murton, Pie

QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ Jun 1, 2008 -> 11:09 PM) So who's the idiot who traded for Swisher and OC? I don't really get your attitude. As part of your strange anti-Ozzie crusade, you seem more happy that Ozzie has some harsh comments thrown his way than to hear the Sox might actually do something to improve thier s***ty hitting. I guess whatever floats your boat. Those comments are pretty much KW deflecting blame for getting a couple duds and letting his roster get old. Oh well. I guess it's Ozzie's fault. I'm just sick of hearing lame threats by Ozzie when nothing ever changes. KW and him need to get on the same page immediately.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 1, 2008 -> 11:04 PM) Keith Law now has the Sox thinking Jason Castro as SF is supposedly on G. Beckham right now. Not a fan of Castro. No one really projects he'll be more than an average starting catcher in the majors, at best. Good thing we won some worthless games at the end of last season.

QUOTE (bighurt4life @ Jun 1, 2008 -> 06:01 AM) Whoever had TB is an idiot. They just signed Longoria to a 6 year deal and Alvarez wants a major league contract. They will NOT take Alvarez, nothing is more clear than that They talked during the game that they'd move Longoria to 2nd base.

QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ Jun 1, 2008 -> 10:04 PM) Paraphrased: I put together this mess but it's Ozzie's job to fix it while I sit here with a thumb up my ass. Thank you. KW gave him CQ, but Ozzie decided not to use him in two different big spots today.

QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ Jun 1, 2008 -> 10:02 PM) Are you being serious? because those got me real excited for the rest of the year. Yes, I'm serious. What does Ozzie expect KW to do personnel wise? We used some very valuable resources to acquire OC and Swisher this offseason. After 2 months in the season, does Ozzie expect teams to just be selling off their players for 50 cents on the dollar?

Wow, awesome comments by KW!

QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ Jun 1, 2008 -> 09:51 PM) Can we trade like Nick Swisher + Broadway for Adam Dunn? Or Swisher + Broadway + Poreda for Matt Holliday? Sorry, couldn't help myself... Reds are playing some good ball, they won't trade Dunn unless they get a #2 or 3 starter in return. I'd give up the whole farm for Holliday though, but where would he play?

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Jun 1, 2008 -> 10:42 PM) Correct. With a very limited minor league system(that is being generous) and a shallow 25 man roster, there isn't much to be done. You're going to see a few guys shifted around in the order. Big deal. Go with this lineup: OC, Thome, CQ, AJ, Dye, Swisher, Konerko, Crede, Ramirez

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 1, 2008 -> 09:29 PM) I agree. The Sox supposedly offerred more money, but he was ticketed to the Cubs probably even before it was assummed Hunter would be a White Sox. They offered more money, but he was set on playing RF and being the first Japanese Cubs player. He didn't want to play CF, and I can see why after he played there for one game for the Cubs.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 1, 2008 -> 10:24 PM) Not as much as Fukudome turning us down because he wanted to be a teams first Japanese player has. I mean, it's not like I'd trade getting Iguchi for anything since it helped us win a title, but if we had Fukudome in CF and leading off, we'd be awfully good. And the Cubs would have ended up trading for Swisher, according to the rumors. However, I'll never believe the Sox were really that close to signing Fuku.

I never thought I'd say this, but the Sox failing to sign Rowand has killed us so far this season.

I've heard these threats before. Now, the next 24-48 hours will be trade winds central again.

Thanks for nothing Rockies. Work will be a lot of fun tomorrow.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Jun 1, 2008 -> 09:10 PM) The 23-32 Tigers who have three starters with ERAs well over 5.00? I agree that they have the talent, but it would take way too many players to turn around their games. Rogers, Pudge, and Sheffield are done, Verlander has lost a ton of velocity, Zumaya is hurt, and Todd Jones is still their closer. Even if their offense turns into the juggernaut that they were supposed to be, they don't have the pitching to reach the playoffs. Zumaya and Rodney are supposed to be back in 10 days. If it comes down to our hitting improving or their pitching improving....maybe I'll take the Twins!

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 1, 2008 -> 09:09 PM) Uribe can't even hit the Mendoza line, not sure how he's the least of our worries. Cause he didn't even play this weekend. Unless the Suck Patrol can get going, this team is in a lot of trouble.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 1, 2008 -> 09:08 PM) Doubt it, their pitching is worse than our offense, plus they are in a big hole right now. Aren't they only like 5 games behind the Sox? Their offense has also been putting up some big numbers lately.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 1, 2008 -> 10:05 PM) It wouldn't because it would make the team worse. You ever get the feeling that some of Getz's family members post on here? In all seriousness, Uribe is the least of our worries. Ramirez will continue to play as long as he's doing good.