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QUOTE(Heads22 @ May 19, 2007 -> 10:39 PM) No one in the front office could've forseen the collective s*** this offense would take. I honestly believe they were concerned about the offense, but the salaries were too high for them to make the changes they wanted to.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ May 19, 2007 -> 10:35 PM) You mean they were able to actually make strides and get better. Geeze, based on what I've seen people are juts worthlwess when done and Jenks was still getting guys out with lower velocities (doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize Jenks is still one of the best closers in the game, even if he's throwing 93-95). And I'm glad people are writing off the relief core, it wasn't that long ago that people were raving about it. I remember all along saying this core will lose some hair but at the same time it will grow and improve (its going to have ugly stretches) but come season end it will be one of the best in the biz. And anyone expecting a young pen to consistently dominant all season was ludicrous. This is not on Kenny, he should make an adjustment to try to fire up the offense, but this isn't on him. I'm glad he did things because his off-season was a very good one in which the team got younger, the farm system got stronger, and our pitching got back to the way it should be. This bullpen has been blowing games consistently since the 2nd game of the season. We have the worst hitting team in the majors and one of the worst bullpens in the majors....not a good recipe for winning. If all that matters was making the farm system stronger, then we should have traded Crede and Dye. KW said he was going to upgrade the relief core this offseason, and he failed. He's fallen in love with "stuff" guys.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ May 19, 2007 -> 10:15 PM) Who gives a crap. I care a lot more about making sure our starters stay fresh all season. Plus, its a good time to see what Masset can do. The Cubs are just one team and not a very good one at that. This team has won its past few series, has some of the best pitching in baseball, and will get better offensively. There is no reason to b**** and moan as much as everyone seems to do around here on a daily basis. Why not enjoy the fact that we have very good baseball people running this organization and have the ability to get to another world series. I disagree....I don't think this team has a chance to make the playoffs this year. There are too many good team in the AL this year. The Cubs offense is very good, anf if the wind is blowing out tomorrow, Masset likely won't last more than 4 innings. Thus, we're going to destroy our relief core again.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ May 19, 2007 -> 10:30 PM) Maybe no people will realize there are problems with this team. It sucks. The better team won. They humiliated us. The Cubs are a damn good team....no doubt in my mind they'll win the NL Central.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ May 19, 2007 -> 10:29 PM) Oh so you guys want the Sox to go to there two/three best relievers: Jenks/Macdougall/Thornton. Last I looked at one point this season most of you f***ing morons thought Jenks was done, MacDougall was god, than after a couple bad outings he's trash and should never see another game, and well Thornton is an absolute joke (oh wait, he's now all of a sudden pitching decent). So if it were up to you guys, Mac would have been the closer a while back (than released after his last couple outings), Jenks would have been down in the minors till he could hit 99MPH (since it matters so much) and Thornton would be long gone. Ya, you guys are real f***ing brilliant with your over-reactions. Jenks and Thornton have started to get their velocity back up to above average...that's all we were asking for. I don't think anyone is complaining about Aardsma being in the game. Bringing in Logan was stupid, but Ozzie's never cared in the 8th inning once we're trailing. This relief core sucks....it's dumb enough to base it all on velocity, but when you combine that with their loss of velocity, it's a joke. KW failed this team so bad in the offseason....thank god Danks is good.

Wow....Pinella earned his salary today. Can we please throw at the next batter?

Boone's never been one to not enjoy a meltdown.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ May 19, 2007 -> 10:24 PM) It's just as embarassing as our bullpen the last two days. maybe even moreso. I couldn't stand to even read it anymore. BUt I figured after a good stretch people would be sane so I came back yesterday. I've never seen anything like it. It's hilarious Yes, our bullpen sucks. I don't think anyone disagrees with you on that. I'm not even faulting Ozzie for this....these guys have to get hitters out. Aardsma was brought in to face righties, and was throwing meatballs galore.

QUOTE(WSoxMatt @ May 19, 2007 -> 10:23 PM) All you do is b****, so Im just being like you...annoying isnt it Give it a rest....your comments have nothing to do with the game....they're pathetic baiting.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 19, 2007 -> 10:20 PM) Again we pitch someone away, and then play him to pull in the OF. Best post in this whole thread.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ May 19, 2007 -> 10:22 PM) Glad Ozzie brought in Aardsma. He was an idiot for not doing that yesterday. Oh wait...LOL. The posts on this board get more ridiculous by the day. I was wondering when you'd come into a thread and rip on posters.

QUOTE(WSoxMatt @ May 19, 2007 -> 10:21 PM) When you do! You're doing nothing but trying to get a rise out of people on this board. Worry more about the game then critcizing people on this board.

These fastballs around 92 mph for Aardsma? I guess velocity is overrated.

QUOTE(WSoxMatt @ May 19, 2007 -> 10:19 PM) f***ING MACDOUGAL!!! Stop acting like an ass.

Ha, what a joke. These relievers are heartless.

Aardsma can't be trusted in clutch situations. What a terrible hanging slider.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ May 19, 2007 -> 10:17 PM) This bullpen takes 5-10 years off my life without question. Don't worry, KW's going to upgrade it.

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ May 19, 2007 -> 10:16 PM) Aaaaaaardsma gives up the leadoff triple to Theriot. Way to go Ozzie putting in Aardsma giving up the triple! I blame Ozzie for mismanaging the pen! /green Good grief, we get the f***ing point.

Super....the bullpen in to blow another game. Aardsma's control is nowhere near what it used to be. Dye played that bad, as you have to go deep and then come in to hold them to a double it if hits the side wall.

Some aggressive swings by Iguchi....great to see he's not feeling for the ball.

I was so happy to see Wuertz out of the game.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ May 19, 2007 -> 10:04 PM) Well that must make you a bad Sox fan since you only remember the bad things. Some of my favorite threads are reminiscing about the most exciting homers/moments of the season.

PK!

Just look outside fastball against Howry and hit it into the right center bleachers.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ May 19, 2007 -> 10:02 PM) Do keep these on a chalk board at home? Just a good memory.