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These guys are having some quality ABs tonight. Can we get eliminated soon, and play our young guys?

QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 12:47 AM) I agree wholeheartedly with the first sentence. How confident are you about the second? I would love for him to get moved, but do you think Ozzie/KW agree? Yes, I think we'll see a new SS here next year. We've already heard names like Lugo mentioned with the Sox.

Two things: - Crede's approach at the plate is just laughable right now. - Does anyone know what Thome is hitting against lefties since the ASB?

QUOTE(Felix @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 12:37 AM) He is. One play does not determine whether a player is the best at anything, a whole career does. His defense this year has been nowhere near as good and crisp as it was in the past. Uribe has 4 home games left in his Sox career.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 08:56 PM) Its funny how you dont hear too much about the Red Sawks failing to make the playoffs. Because they had ridiculous injury problems this year. I know we had some guys banged up this year, but compared to almost every other team in baseball, we had great luck with injuries. If I was to think of the top 20 reasons for why we didn't make the playoffs this year, the only injury issue I would even bring up is how Contreras' injury completely stopped his momentum as an "ace".

We pushed our starting pitchers too hard at the beginning of the year, instead of letting them ease into the season. Part of the reason why we acquired Vazquez, or at least we were told, was to let McCarthy fill-in for some of our starters if they experienced this fatigue. How many times this year did Ozzie leave a starter out for the 7th or 8th inning, especially when we were losing, when he could have gone to the bullpen and maybe saved 20 pitches on our starter's arm?

What a disappointing end to a terrific season for Crede.

Great game by Crede tonight...let him get his 30th homer, and then shut his ass down for the year.

No one else I'd rather have up in a non-clutch situation than Thome.

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 02:55 AM) they say you win if you are strong up the middle....hmmmm he was one of the first pieces in the building process that ultimately led to his wearing a WS ring with the rest of the 2005 guys! book it! Weren't the Phillies better w/o Rowand in CF this year?

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 02:54 AM) go back and read VASOXFANs allstar post....you laughed at his wisdom....! where's this thread? FWIW, I was one of the main proponents on this site for upgrading our offense, even though everyone kept saying it was the pitching that needed upgrading.

QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 02:52 AM) At least give the guy his due for all that. He should always be remembered as a key part of the 2005 Sox. I'll remember him for his great commentary during the Pods walkoff, as well as how excited he was when we won it all.

Ah Neal Cotts....treasure 2005, it was a fluke.

manager....what could he have done at the ASB if things went bad? There was absolutely no trade market this season, with so many teams in contention.

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 02:47 AM) Frank and Magglio have it in for us for sure. At least Ozzie hasn't egged them on by acting like an immature P.O.S.

Good job Jermaine...Thome would have just K'd anyways.

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 02:43 AM) since you arent able to have a memory here we go one more time: take notes please for gods sake! YOU RESPECT YOUR WS CHAMPION PLAYERS BY KEEPING THEM! AT LEAST THE MAJOR CONTRIBUTORS! GM couldve reevaluated at All-Star break.... What was he going to re-evaluate at the ASB? Everyone in the world thought we'd coast to the playoffs with a 6 game lead in the WC. We did keep the major contributors from the postseason.

QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 02:41 AM) What's the deal with Urbina anyway? Is he still in jail, is he gonna be able to play this year? Unless season 3 of "Prison Break" is filmed in Venezuela, he's not going to be playing in the majors anytime soon.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 02:37 AM) I honestly don't care. If Urbina would be willing to pitch for fairly cheap I'd sign him right now, machete and all. He'd bring new meaning to the term "throwing gas on the fire".

QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 02:36 AM) Don't you know that it is trying hard that wins, not actual talent. This sounds like an argument a college spots fan makes when their team has a bad recruiting class.

QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 02:35 AM) It wouldn't suprise me if he came to the Sox, he is one of Ozzies buddies. I think Ozzie said he went to visit him in jail over the winter. And like the good guy he is, he asked Ozzie if he wanted him to kill someone in that jail who had killed Ozzie's best friend.

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 02:35 AM) i respect Arow as a baseball player...you spit on him and bring up .230 average to support your dislike... Well...how dare SSI bring up a player's stats.

QUOTE(SinkingShip06 @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 02:34 AM) and this whole season hasn't been? No, it hasn't been embarrassing. I'm all for being negative, but it hasn't been embarrassing.

QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 02:33 AM) I never even thought about Uggy Urbina. That would be embarassing. There were people on this site earlier this year saying that his attempted murder charge wasn't too big of a deal, and that he's a good guy.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 02:32 AM) I got 5 bucks on the runner scoring from third via wild pitch. Seriously, why was Thornton taken out? Is he injured? Thornton needs to decide if he'll be a power hitter or a speed player.