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QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 07:57 PM) Well, Speed 2: Cruise Control IS on HBO right now. Can't miss that. Isn't the plot of Speed kinda similar to Vazquez? Once it gets over a certain number, it just explodes?

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 07:56 PM) Chacon for Wilson official Does Brian Cashman have naked pictures of some GMs? This is another trade where he acquires a useful player for nothing.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 07:55 PM) Yanks are talking about acquiring Craig Wilson. Shawn Shacon was traded to the Pirates, is Wilson the guy coming back? What a novel concept...acquire a right handed power hitter off the bench that can play a few positions.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 07:46 PM) Doesn't bother me one bit that Stairs is out of KC, especially right before we play them. He can still hit and he's a pro's pro. Yeah, I like the move for Texas. They don't have a very good bench, and this will give them a veteran presence for late inning situations.

QUOTE(Jake @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 07:39 PM) Jacque would be an improvement over Podsednik, but not a huge one. Not to mention the price we would probably have to pay to get him. The Cubs would love to get rid of his 3 year deal in order to free up money and playing time for a big name acquisition this offseason.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 07:36 PM) Vaz for the Chorizo sausage, straight up. At least the chorizo won't melt under pressure.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 07:32 PM) And his high ERA. And his lackluster attitude.

My only hope is that in three years, we won't look back and think "what the hell were we thinking by making McCarthy an untouchable", in the same way that we were with Borchard a few years ago. I like McCarthy, but he's no sure thing to become a #1 or 2 starter.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 07:28 PM) Disagree. O Perez has lost velocity and is basically worthless, Hernandez is old and done. Nady is a nice player, and has developed this year. I think the Pirates made a great deal here. Haven't there been a lot of rumors about Perez being a steroid guy? I'm a big fan of Nady, and this gives the Pirates some very good corner outfielders. That team desperately needs a CF though.

QUOTE(spiderman @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 06:51 PM) Especially if we're banking on the White Sox making another move... It's funny, people totally forget we got MacDougle just a few days ago. I think people would be happier if MacDougal was able to play left field.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 06:48 PM) I get the feeling nothing Is gonna happen. I'll be shocked if Soriano isn't traded in the next hour.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 05:33 PM) I was actually going to suggest at least two. I would have said Crisp and Lester since they want him so much for Andruw (maybe + $) since Crisp and Jones are a wash at CF, What? Is this a typo?

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 05:11 PM) Whoa, I just looked at his numbers. I don't want him at all anymore. At least we know he's a great teammate.

I find it funny that they got a better situational reliever than Majewski, and they didn't have to give up Lopez/Kearns type potential in order to land Cormier. This is a very good trade for the Reds.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 03:37 PM) At the very least, he has to get a serviceable 4th OFer. That would likely prevent a few more runs from scoring on the greatest 5-man rotation in the history of mankind. I honestly wonder if they don't want to acquire someone like that because they don't know who they'd have to release/send down from their 25 man roster.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 03:27 PM) I used to be big on Tejada-is-on-steroids, but not anymore. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt because of his consecutive games played. He very likely was on steroids, but it doesn't mean he's still not a great player.

QUOTE(Jake @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 04:54 AM) Does anyone know how hard/effective Hermy has been throwing down there? He could still help us up in Chicago. Last I heard, he wasn't throwing hard enough to get a speeding ticket on a highway (mid 80s).

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 05:46 AM) I'll close on this, because we've collectively spent too much time debating this. Uribe isn't a perfect player. But he's not someone who's going to hurt you, either. I'm perfectly fine with him and Brian Anderson hitting 8th and 9th, as they play the two most important defensive positions damn well. And, as has been shown this year -- run prevention > run production, and team defense certainly plays a huge part in that. On a team with some high salaried guys, he's a great fit. He gives you very dependable defense, and some power at the bottom of the order. I guess people forgot how bad it was when the likes of Valentin, Clayton, and Guillen were patrolling SS.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 03:47 AM) Bad pitching all the way around, some bad luck in the 9th didn't help either. Everything went right for Gibbons today, he fisted his base hit in the 9th. Conine I give credit to, great veteran at bat but bad pitch location and selection by the White Sox. You really have to admire Conine's ABs vs Jenks this season. It's funny, but both of Jenks' blown saves this year have been on almost identical hits (German and Conine taking the outside fastball to right field).

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 03:44 AM) He should absolutely get the chance. It would give him more confidence. It's a good idea if you have an off day the next day so you ensure he's ready to go the next time you need him, or if he's fresh and is just getting the last out of the 8th, does well, and can go into the 9th. Plus it gives Jenks a break. And there's this thought...if he can go out there and be a shut down closer, he might have HUGE trade value this offseason. I don't want to trade him, but if he can net you a good package, it might be worth giving him the shot. If, and it's a big if, we fall out of the playoff race, I'd like to see him get a lot of opportunities as a closer.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 03:39 AM) Right, you have the corners play in and the rest of the IF play in too. The key out is the out at home. Give yourself every chance to get that out. Play the middle IF back and you decrease your odds of getting that out. Shorter throw to the plate and then hopefully to 1st to get the runner, if not, you're still alive and there are two outs and you revert to normal defensive positioning. What do you think about giving Thornton a chance or two at closing out a game? With Jenks struggling lately, I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Thornton get a situation with a 3 run lead and some lefties coming up to the plate. In no way am I advocating a change, but it might give Ozzie some options. I remember that before the year, you thought Cotts would get some chances to close (to give Ozzie options).

QUOTE(Shamrock4Life @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 03:37 AM) why not move an outfielder into the infield. and long fly ball scores the runner anyways. I've only seen that work once, and I think the Sox turned a double play on Jermaine Dye when he was still with KC. Carlos Lee made a great turn at 2nd. Hell, with the way our guys have been throwing out there, might as well have had 7 infielders

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 03:33 AM) Ok so now you say we should have had the corners in. So that's progress I guess. There's no doubt you have the corners in. That shouldn't even be in question for a manager. In that situation, it's probably easier to turn a 5-2-3 DP than a 5-4-3 DP (especially with Patterson at first).

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 03:28 AM) As I've said now about 6 times, it's not just the bunt. A bunt is just one of several slow rolling soft type hits that could happen, and if it did and the IF is playing back, game over. I agree that we should have had the corners in, and that would take away the threat of the bunt. If the ball was hit so slowly that we couldn't turn two on a very slow runner, who's to say we would have gotten the force out at home? There's a lot of things that can happen though, and it's too bad we had to lose. Jermaine Dye is quickly shooting up the ranks as one of my favorite Sox players of all time.

QUOTE(Dan Pasqua @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 03:26 AM) However, he is our 5th starter. And hes performing adequatley for a 5th starter. No he's not. KW didn't pay a hefty amount for him to have his ERA now 5.50.