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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 11:11 PM) I doubt it's actually the worst, but it's pretty damn close. Why the Hell is Mack starting in CF with a lefty on the mound? Is Anderson THAT out of shape? Has the MVP hype gotten to Anderson's head?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 11:14 PM) Simply put, this team looks like they're in trouble. If the Yanks get healthy soon, their lineup of Damon, Jeter, Sheffield, ARod, Giambi, Abreu, Matsui, Posada, and Cano is going to be tough to overcome. That literally is an all-star lineup.

No way is Vazquez removed from the rotation. Our pitchers right now are making every hitter look dangerous. Either it be Jason Tyner or Nick Markakis or Brandon Fahey.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 11:08 PM) It would also have helped, you know, earlier in the game, had we had a center fielder out there who could have made a couple of those plays that wound up being short-hopped. Seriously, with a lefty on the mound, why the hell do we put in our worst center fielder? This was one of the poorer managed games of the season, and I don't think many people would argue with that. I'm still puzzled why our middle infield wasn't at DP depth for the last batter.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 11:08 PM) Honestly, when you look at this team, we are the most talented and experienced in our division. We just had a slump and are pulling out of it. The problem is that we're in such a hole in the division, we have to look at the WC now. The Yanks, if they get their guys back healthy, are absolutely loaded on offense now.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 11:06 PM) I agree, I don't think anything major will happen but I do think there's a good possibility something minor will happen. Tweaking the pitching staff or tweaking the bench. I'll actually be surprised if we don't make another trade for a reliever, especially after what happened this wknd.

This team is severely lacking a left fielder, or even a back-up LF.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 10:58 PM) Well it's time the White Sox start playing to their capabilities. This team could look slightly different for tomorrow nite's game ... we'll see. As for Halladay, the Sox have missed him several times due to fortuitous events, my feeling is bring him on, let's raise the level of competitiveness and start playing better. Yep, I agree. If we can't start beating good teams/pitchers, this team has NO CHANCE of making the playoffs. If we continue to play the way we have been for another 3 or 4 weeks, we're going to find ourselves too far back in the WC standings.

I'm going to ask Christine O'Reilly what she thinks of our chances. Seriously, why try to change the way someone views things? They're White Sox fans...that should be enough for them to get on your good side.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 10:46 PM) Who's overrating them? Is overrating them not wanting to lose them for a player that we would have little to no chance of resigning after the season? A guy that hasn't come anywhere close to repeating his career season FOUR years ago? A guy that would in no way guarantee us a spot in the playoffs? Yep, we can get a better fit for the next few years if we wait until the offseason to trade Fields/Broadway.

QUOTE(BobDylan @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 10:24 PM) That's why I love the Rangers and O's. Ha, well said.

QUOTE(BobDylan @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 10:20 PM) I meant it in terms of taking on SMART contracts. I'd like to have Zito for the remaining two months of the season, but unless the Sox can get actual face value (I.E. not a five year contract for 10+ million/year) for his services in the re-sign department, I wouldn't even bother to try and keep him. Ok, fair enough. However, Zito could tear his labrum tomorrow, and he'd still likely get over 10 million per year. I think he'll get a 4 yr, 60 mil contract this offseason.

QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 10:15 PM) Well, the alternative is to pee away the season while our pitchers try and figure out what's wrong. I don't want to watch that for the rest of the year because Lance Broadway express might hit the Cell 2 years from now with a 4.5 ERA. Also, I can't for the life me imagine why someone who is willing to give up Josh Fields for Scott friggin' Linebrink wouldn't want to give up Fields and Broadway for Zito. First, Linebrink has an option for next year. KW's recent moves show he's trying to load up our relief core for a few years. And in regards to peeing away our season, I think KW/Ozzie are going to live and die with the 25 man roster we have right now. One of the hardest things to do as a GM or Manager is to admit that something isn't working or someone might be a bad fit.

QUOTE(BobDylan @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 10:12 PM) Twist my words any way you like. I thought you meant that re-signing Zito wouldn't be impossible because payroll isn't too big of an issue. You said that money isn't an issue anymore. I'm not sure how else I should take that statement.

EVERYONE in the baseball industry knows that Zito won't sign during the season. I'll be shocked if he doesn't end up in NY next season. QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 10:09 PM) Ahh, so you were being sarcastic? Unless we unloaded like 2 or 3 high-priced players from the team, it would be very hard for Zito to fit into the budget.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 10:06 PM) How do you figure that? They wanted McCarthy. We could have gotten Soriano if we offered Fields, Broadway, and another prospect. Also, if money isn't an issue like he said it was, then we don't need McCarthy.

QUOTE(BobDylan @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 09:21 PM) Then it comes down to making any package that doesn't include McCarthy. Plus I don't think money is really a big issue anymore. If it's not an issue, then we really screwed up in not trading for and re-signing Soriano.

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 09:57 PM) Yes, very much so. There is room for one bad player. Especially a rookie. Stats from Uribe like he is putting up are just completely unacceptable. If we had a decent, hell, even someone like .265/.340/.450 at short, we'd be a lot better. BA has also more than made up for his lack of offense to start the year on defense. I'm just not going to respond to this argument anymore.

QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 09:42 PM) As far as Zito's free agent status, I think we would have money to re-sign him if we wanted to do so. The way things look now, we're not going to have much money at all to spend to upgrade the team. I believe we already have about 100 million locked up in 13 players.

QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 09:48 PM) well, we have 3 against the Royals and the Twins have 3 against the Rangers. It would be real nice to pick up 2 games on the Twins here. And the Yanks play the Blue Jays, but they miss Halladay. Have no fear though, we'll get him over the wknd.

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 09:43 PM) How so? I don't feel Brian is the problem. It's Pods. He's terrible, and doesn't belong on a playoff caliber team. Neither does Juan Uribe. You say Brian isn't a problem, but you say Uribe doesn't belong on a playoff caliber team? WOW!

If anyone heard a post game press conference with Ozzie, can you please let me know if they asked why he didn't have his middle infield back at double play depth? After seeing the replay just now, that's absolutely pathetic managing.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 09:29 PM) Obviously Jenks deserves blame for blowing it, but he shouldn't have had to pitch yesterday, and today if Vasquez AND Cotts weren't so fishing awful, maybe Jenks wouldn't have been needed today either. The problem remains the pitching, and to be honest I can't blame Ozzie all that much since it seems like in big spots, no matter who is out there seems to figure out a way to suck. Something that Jenks is going to have to improve upon is his bounce-back ability from game to game. His stuff really tails off if he has to pitch two games in a row. When you're a closer, you can't really afford for this to happen too often. The big boy needs to get himself in better shape.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 09:30 PM) The Royals would light him up now. Their offense has been much better the last two months or so. Yeah, Hawk was promoting them like they're world-beaters.

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 09:18 PM) I would not do this deal, unless BA or Jones were going to be playing left. Our CF is fine, its the LF that is the problem. Man, have our expectations to have a championship caliber team gone down.