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QUOTE(bigred3535 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 02:53 AM) Let me qualify my statement: pitched very well until Ozzie left him in for one too many batter, yet again. Can't we just say it was a situation of "Ozzie being Ozzie"? I've never seen a manager consistently get burned so often leaving his starting pitchers in for too long as I've seen from Ozzie in the last 50 games.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 02:53 AM) Our hitters also seem to miss the 91 mph fastball down the cock with such regularity. Same pitch to the injuns gets parked into the stands. Our hitting just flat out sucks. Of course, since I never played professional baseball, I'm not allowed to question Greg Walker's ability.

QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 02:52 AM) what's the wild card situation now? I think Yankees won and Red Sox lost, so that means Red Sox are a half game behind the tribe? Sox are 3 up in wild card? 3.5

QUOTE(bigred3535 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 02:51 AM) Just got home...disappointing to say the least. Seems like Garland pitched very well. He pitched solid, but 7-5 isn't "very well".

QUOTE(Harry&JimmyRocked @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 02:50 AM) making the playoffs and getting swept in 3 straight ya mean. ANYTHING IS BETTER THAN MISSING THE PLAYOFFS! The franchise would take a massive hit if they completely collapse.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 02:48 AM) what gets me is how simple this is. if Jon shuts them out tonight, we're not only fine, we're actually safe to win this damn division. Doesn't happen in our home part and suddenly the outlook is as bleak as ever with tomorrow's automatic loss to go with the 3 games we will lose in cleveland to close the season. Here's the real simple answer: the Indians offense is too f***ing good now to get consistently shut down. When's the last time one of our starters pitched a good game against a contending team (Twins aren't contenders). Probably McCarthy's start vs Red Sox.

Besides the slight possibility that the backlash against Ozzie will be so great that JR has to fire him this offseason, the only positive about a potential collapse is that Hawk will have some amazing quotes the last week of the season. Could you imagine him having to eat crow if the Indians clinch the division on the field vs the Sox? MERCY

QUOTE(Harry&JimmyRocked @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 02:47 AM) this team proves to the nation why chicago baseball is a laughingstock It's funny that I'm the one saying this, but keep the faith buddy! This team still has a veyr good chance of making the playoffs.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 02:44 AM) . Can anybody not blast the team after this one???? Yes, and respectfully, he's in this game thread.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 02:42 AM) I would too and I"d put him in our 3 or 5 hole. Good call on the 3rd hole hitter. I'M SO f***ING SICK OF SEEING EVERETT SWING STRAIGHT UP ON EVERY PITCH!

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 02:42 AM) Maybe if we get blown out Ozzie will get his head out of his ass and realize we are playing like s***...maybe... I've been hoping for that for 40 games now, and nothing has happened. Hell, there were games I wanted the Sox to get no-hit once they were losing because I thought maybe they'd change up the offense someway. This is the ship we're riding on, and there's 11 games before we know the outcome. Embrace the two lines in my signature.

So, what team will Baj sign with in the offseason?

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 02:40 AM) Never once did I say I'd rather have Pods over Sizemore all things being equal. I said that Pods is a much better #1 hole hitter and better at getting on base when you need it. Gotcha...I'll still take Sizemore

If you listen to DJ, you can tell the organization isn't too high on Baj. I wish the best for him, but you can tell there are people in the org. who think he's a AAAA pitcher.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 02:39 AM) Didn't Garland outpitch santana last year in a 1-0 game? 2-1. Carlos Lee homered in the first for both runs. Maybe Pods can homer tomorrow to win 1-0?

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 02:38 AM) 6 zip. This is a beatdown. Good morning, good evening, good night AL Central. THE WILD CARD IS OUR BEST FRIEND RIGHT NOW!

Hey jphat....still rather have Pods than Sizemore?

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 02:37 AM) Brandon will have to give up negative 1 runs tomorrow for us to win Our just 1 hit....OH f***, THAT DIDN'T WORK BEFORE!

QUOTE(WSoxMatt @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 02:35 AM) 1 last thought on Lawton... WHERE WOULD HE PLAY...MAYBE SIT NEXT TO GRIFFEY ON THE BENCH Someone like Lawton could have started for two weeks when Pods got hurt, and then been our 4th outfielder when Pods returned.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 02:35 AM) He's f***ing hurt, and he's been that way since the break. It killed his effectiveness on the bases. Where do you guys get this stuff. If he's hurt, can't steal, can't defend, and can't drive in runs, then bench his f***ing ass.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 02:34 AM) He leads the f***ing league in stolen bases. He stopped stealing once he got hurt. That's what he's saying....he's worthless now that he can't steal.

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 02:33 AM) Jenks looks good but he needs some experience in some tight games, even though monday he came in with guys on already and yesterday rowand blew it, he just wasn't locating his curveball like he should or else they would've had no chance. Jenks is overthrowing everything. His curve is either in the dirt because he overthrows it, or up high because he's just aiming it. He hasn't been able to throw it naturally it seems for a few games. He'll continue to give up hard hit balls if he keeps the fastball down.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 02:30 AM) Look, just remember this. Next year, our closer and our 5th starter will be paid $400,000 a piece. It will stay that way for several years. Right now, we seriously cannot afford to trade away young people. This team has a lot of guys getting paid decently well, and a lot of guys who are going to go up in price. The only way we can afford to keep any of these pieces together, including just hte top 2 in our pitching staff, will be to have some young guys take the places of people. You cannot build a team of all veterans on a $75 million salary and have them be winners. You need youth. The sooner some people will realize this isn't a video game, the better. I couldn't agree with you more.

QUOTE(Rally Crede!! @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 02:31 AM) I'm sorry, but Podsednik without any speed is f***ing useless leadoff hitter. You can get rid of the last two words, and just go with useless.

QUOTE(WSoxMatt @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 02:31 AM) W Sox 91-60 R Sox 88-64 3.5 GAMES!!! I was wrong It's good to be wrong sometimes, ay?