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QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Mar 1, 2006 -> 09:32 PM) 2 hits for the Sox through 6 innings. Mackowiak and Dye singled. Ken Griffey Jr......WHERE WOULD HE PLAY?

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Mar 1, 2006 -> 09:10 PM) I just got back from class, anyone got a mini recap for me? Yep, we suck.

Where's the desire for Geoff Blum to come back for the ceremony?

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Mar 1, 2006 -> 08:49 PM) Don't forget about Freddy sweatin too much. And let me add that Garland doesn't want to play in Chicago. It's ok, as long as we're close at the trade deadline, I'm sure KW will get us the spark we need. The spark is none other than Timo!

Between Contreras getting shelled, Vazquez's mechanics, McCarthy giving up a ton of hits the other day, and the fact that Buehrle isn't an ace........WE'RE IN TROUBLE!

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Mar 1, 2006 -> 08:38 PM) Hop in the chat beesh. Anderson K's. Inning over. HE BLOWS! BRING ROWAND BACK! Owens is starting in CF! BOOOOO! I'd go into the chat, but I'm at work, and don't want to risk it.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Mar 1, 2006 -> 08:33 PM) EDIT: Fathom! Where the hell have you been?????? I've been posting a lot. I tried not to get too caught up in the pissing contest regarding Frank vs KW.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Mar 1, 2006 -> 08:27 PM) Cmon fathom. Post something that I can argue with. won't be an official game thread until you do No way jphat, I'm saving those comments for the regular season. I know, this is weird. I can't start b****ing about Ozzie, and you can't start saying every out was tough luck.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Mar 1, 2006 -> 05:38 PM) It would be fitting if Frank wasn't there and didn't contribute at all. You know, like the entire postseason and most of the regular season. Hell of a post

I miss Timo's presence in the lineup already. OMIT THOME!

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Mar 1, 2006 -> 05:42 AM) At least we got a W on senior night. Great news for ISU with Stinson saying he's coming back.

I'd love to see anyone but UCONN, Duke, or Illinois. My dream Final Four would be LSU, WVU, Washington, and Tennessee.

QUOTE(illinilaw08 @ Mar 1, 2006 -> 03:49 AM) Agreed it should have been an intentional foul. I also think Pruitt got fouled. Both plays were potential turning points in the game. This game's officiating has been very inconsistent IMO. I never saw the replay on the Pruitt play. That was one of those hard to call plays where you have to focus on the ball in the shooter's hands. The intentional foul should have been clear as day.

How in the f*** wasn't that an intentional foul called on Dee? The funny thing is that Illini fans are freaking out about the refs, and that non-intentional foul was a turning point in this game.

Kelvim Escobar deserves a playoff share from the Sox, just like Brad Lidge, Dmitri Young, and the umpiring crews.

I hadn't seen the actual video of what KW said until tonight on SportsCenter. Holy cow was KW angry during his tirade. That definitely wasn't the reaction of someone responding only to Frank's latest interview. That seemed like about 5 years of built-up hatred towards Thomas.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 11:47 PM) Frank said what half the Sox fans in Chicago have been thinking for a long time. Good for him We have? I thought it was more what half the Sox fans in Chicago have been thinking regarding Frank for a long time. I've read plenty of comments from Frank over the last 10 years which made me think he was making idiotic comments.

Both of these guys are at fault. Frank started it, but KW couldn't keep his mouth quiet. The one thing this whole saga does it make me appreciate that we brought in a class-act in Jim Thome. BTW, I don't know if this train of thought has been brought up, but I know we're supposed to appreciate Frank for all the years he played for the Sox. On the other hand, I felt like Frank disrespected those same Sox fans who helped pay his huge salaries when he said he wouldn't have attended the parade or thrown out the first pitch of Game 1.

I was critical of Frank, but I'm proud of the way he responded to this today. Everyone just needs to move on, and both the White Sox and Frank Thomas are better off now that he's out of the organization.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:27 AM) Do you honestly feel he would've ridden on the bench as a non-active, if he didn't give a s*** about the team during the playoffs? He didn't have to be here. He was there by choice. That's exactly the point I was trying to make before. I don't think he would have been here if he didn't care. However, I also thought he cared more than saying he wouldn't have wanted to participate in the events. My hope is that Thome hits 35 homers this year, and makes KW, the general manager, look good.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:26 AM) Disagree completely. I do believe that, to some degree, FT really does feel betrayed. I think he's wrong, and it will go away, but it's not unexpected, and not some sign that he was disingenuous. Here's the thing I don't get....I didn't hear a single rumor that said Frank was going to be brought back to the club. Frank's acting like he thought it was a sure thing he would be brought back. My opinion is that Frank's acted like a jilted ex-boyfriend who's trying to make the Sox look bad by saying they made him promises, etc.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:23 AM) You know he's just angry. Nothing more than that; I can't see him really meaning all that. Do you honestly feel he was just putting on a "politically correct" act at the end of his White Sox tenure? I was watching the WS DVD the other night, and they have footage of him saying stuff on the field right after the World Series was over. Do you honestly believe that the first thing on his mind was to say the perfect thing? I don't think so. It's too hard to tell. He seemed so excited at the time. Now, when you hear comments about how he wouldn't have attended the parade/throw out first pitch, you really wonder how he really feels. Not for once did I expect Frank to leave quietly, but I wish it didn't become a big issue like this.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:21 AM) Define unsuccessful. What are you expecting in '06? Make the playoffs. That's all I'm asking for. We've put a lot of our resources into this season, and have given up some important pieces for the future. I don't care if they get swept in the first round of the playoffs.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:17 AM) Ahh, Frank is unprofessional. Kenny, a team executive, can call the best Sox player ever a selfish idiot, and it's completely justified. Gotcha. Also, I find there to be a huge difference between complaining about a person's actions (like what KW said) and Frank's comments about how he wouldn't have thrown out the first pitch/attend the parade. After all the comments that Frank made about how important getting the ring was, it sure seems like a bunch of bulls*** now.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:17 AM) Ahh, Frank is unprofessional. Kenny, a team executive, can call the best Sox player ever a selfish idiot, and it's completely justified. Gotcha. I've had about 3 posts today where I said KW was completely unprofessional with his comments today. I'm embarrassed with all of this s***, and I think it's a pathetic way to start the season for the defending champions. All I know is that KW and Ozzie can do no wrong with many of us right now, but if they have an unsuccessful season this year, they better get ready to have to defend any stop comments they make with the media.