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Shingo vs the Indians in Game 3 of the season. Oh sorry, wrong thread.

Everyone knows I'm not the biggest Ozzie fan, but I was very impressed with him during the interview last night. Nothing he said was really "stupid", and you can tell he has a passion for managing. Also dropping the F bomb regarding the talent that Phil had with the Bulls was high comedy.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 01:08 AM) I hope he signs with Boston, would just prove what we knew all along, his "I want to go back to Texas to play and be with my kids" s*** was just that, a bunch of s***. What a loser, I can't wait to b**** slap him when we see him pitching for whatever team he ends up with. Don't forget the Astros also wasted a draft pick on his son in an effort to please him.

I still that the Jenks in the entire postseason was PHENOMENAL. He was a good throw by Pods away from being the WS MVP. Think about the tough saves he had to get in the postseason.....the two inning save in Game 2 vs Boston, Game 3 vs Boston where he couldn't allow a runner on base with Ortiz coming up, the Game 1 of the WS masterpiece, pitching in the extras in Game 3 of the WS, and then the clutch Game 4 of the WS save. Not bad for our top prospect, huh?

QUOTE(SnB @ Feb 5, 2006 -> 10:17 PM) Illiniboard is full of pricks and cubbie like crazy optimistics. I stopped reading it when one day they complained about assembly hall being too quiet, then the next week they complained about krush jumping up and down and screaming. The thing I can't stand is that they think refs are totally out to get them. Every game, win or lose, there's 20 threads b****ing about the refs. And then, if another team's site complains about the refs in the game, they'll state how much those teams are whining. There are always ticky-tack fouls and questionable calls during a game. Sometimes, you just need to make sure you outscore the opposition.

QUOTE(SnB @ Feb 5, 2006 -> 10:13 PM) he's very good at everything but shooting? ...ok He's a pretty good defender, that's about it. See, that was what I was talking about. Someone who is very good at everything but shooting would be Julian Wright. To say Frazier is "VERY" good is a gross exaggeration in my eyes. However, I do appreciate the talk about things like this, as you can never get a legit conversation on the illiniboard.

The thing with Augustine is that he's never developed range on his shot. As a matter of fact, he was a better outside shooter as a freshman than he is now. If Augie makes the NBA, he should send his entire check to Dee and Deron. Augie gets so many easy layups during a game. And speaking of the Illini, am I the only one who doesn't understand the Frazier love? Many Illini fans think he's this great future player, but basically all I see is a WNBA look-a-like who dribbles the ball up the court, and then just passes to a wing player. If he's the Illini starter at point guard during his career, they're going to be a mid-level Big 10 team.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 5, 2006 -> 09:59 PM) The missing link for this years Illini team is ball movement. Nobody on this team can pass other than Dee and Chester (whose passing is offset by the fact he can't shoot). Exactly, and one thing Julian does an amazing job at is moving the ball. He can't shoot at all (but then again, neither can Randle).

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 5, 2006 -> 09:54 PM) :rolly You didn't hit a shot at the horn that appeared to win the game. And Julian Wright is still having a s*** year, but he's going to develop into a solid ballplayer. s*** year for Julian? He's a freshman playing a new position, and he's shown enough to earn playing time and start for a talented Kansas team. He's never going to be a big scorer, but he does a lot to help his team during a game. If you ask me, he's the missing link on the Illini team this year. He'd easily be the best interior passer they'd have, and would possibly force the offense to not just sit around a fire up three pointers the whole game.

QUOTE(SnB @ Feb 5, 2006 -> 04:58 PM) I know there are those people out there, but honestly...I don't know any. Every good illini fan I know, doesn't think too highly of augy. He has(d) the potential to be a force on the inside, but was never aggressive enough. If you go on the illiniboard after any good performance by Augie, you'll see numerous threads stating how he should be a lottery pick. The same thing happened with Randle after the Wisconsin game. Randle is another guy that won't sniff a second in the NBA until he can shoot outside of 5 feet or play 5 minutes without fouling someone.

A couple of comments about Big 10 play from yesterday: - I never thought I'd say this, but Steve Alford is far and away doing the best job of coaching in the conference. Iowa is playing under control, and their system gets the best out of their 5 core guys. - I still get a laugh when Illini fans think James Augustine is going to be a first round pick. There's not much of a market for power forwards who can't shoot from outside 5 feet, can't create their own shot, and still haven't learned to play defense without fouling. - Bruce Weber.....you play to win the game! I couldn't believe how passive the Illini were last night in the final 10 minutes. Penn St. could have won by more if they didn't miss 3 layups in the last 4 minutes. - Wisconsin sucks. They're a 2 person team, and even those guys are ball hogs. - Ohio St. is the best all-around team in the conference. Je'kel Foster might be the most underrated player in the country (along with Tyrus Thomas, Darrel Mitchell, and Joakim Noah).

Trust me, I don't want the Sox to have the philosophy that if a player's not going to re-sign, then they need to get rid of them. I'd much rather they just go for it all this season again, and if Contreras leaves after this year, then McCarthy's ready to start next season.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Feb 4, 2006 -> 04:14 PM) He didn't do that for Konerko. And I don't think he was any less interested than Contreras. Contreras just wants to get paid what he's worth, just like Paulie, and KW probably won't offer up to that until after the season because he already has at least 5 locked up. If Contreras has a good, not even great season, there's no chance the Sox are going to be able to bring him back. When you also consider that we don't get any draft picks if he leaves, then that adds to the possibility that Contreras might get dealt in the next month. And I also think I'm going to puke the next time someone suggests we'll trade him at the deadline. The only way that happens is if the Sox are 20 games out of the standings (even then, I don't think KW/Ozzie would give up).

KW might not need to trade Contreras, but he's made it pretty obvious that if a player isn't interested in signing an extension with the White Sox, then he's going to do his best to get value for that player before they leave via free agency.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Feb 4, 2006 -> 03:56 PM) I have no doubt Philly would do that deal. Especially if GIllick wnats to try and win this year. I also have no doubt that KW wouldn't. Am I the only one who thinks that the White Sox would be the team who's easily getting the best end of this deal? Personally, I don't think there's a chance in hell that Philly will make this deal.

Wow, I wouldn't trade Brandon Wood straight up for Manny.

I haven't chimed in too much during these Abreu trade rumor threads, but I was wondering if there's been any actual new rumors regarding this possible trade in the last few days? Or, are we just going off of the initial report. BTW, I agree with Jphat....there's not a chance in hell this trade takes place. I can't see the Phillies doing it.

AJP might have been on the Smackdown taping tonight. There's rumors it will lead to a bigger spot at WrestleMania, which is in Chicago this year.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jan 28, 2006 -> 10:48 PM) Someone asked Ozzie yesterday whether Anderson would play LF or CF. KW piped right in and said CF. I think his attitude towards Owens playing CF may be a case of him wanting no part of Pods in CF. If Anderson and Owens played at the same time, I'm sure Anderson would be in CF. Did anyone ask KW if they think Pods is a better leadoff hitter than Grady Sizemore? Anyways, it's great to hear they plan on putting Anderson in CF.

It's amazing what has happened to Javy since 'roids was cracked down on in baseball. His decline in numbers the past few years is about as bad as anyone not named Samuel Sosa.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jan 27, 2006 -> 11:23 PM) Grossman over Vick? Wow. I know what DukeNukeEm is talking about now. I hate Vick. I don't even think Grossman is anything special. Vick is the most overrated player in all of sports. And again, I think my record on soxtalk shows that I'm anything but a homer.

QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jan 27, 2006 -> 11:21 PM) With Rex Grossman at QB we'll never win a Super Bowl. I dont care if we win the division 10 times in a row, I want a CHAMPIONSHIP. Not consistent choking. Consistent choking = Bears defense the last two playoff games. I don't even want to think about how ugly that game vs the Panthers would have been if Orton was at QB.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jan 27, 2006 -> 11:16 PM) Ive consistently been a huge Grossman supporter, but please do not hurt your credibility by saying youd rather have Grossman over Young. I said I'd rather have Grossman than Young over the next few seasons. In 5 years, who knows who will be better. I just don't think that Vince Young is even close to being an average starter in the NFL.

QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jan 27, 2006 -> 11:14 PM) http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396159/gamelogs/2004 1 TD in 3 games v. the following opponents: Minnesota, Green Bay, Detroit. OK, now you can laugh. Those stats are from 2 seasons ago. Who cares about that? I'll guarantee that if Kyle Orton starts for the Bears for a majority of games in the next few seasons, the Bears won't make the playoffs.

QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jan 27, 2006 -> 11:10 PM) Grossman's QB Rating : 68.8 Orton's QB Rating : 59.7 I'll take the guy who doesnt get hurt every f***in year. Duke....you would really rather have Orton than Grossman? The same Orton who all you have to do is put a blitz on, and he'll go down faster than Paris Hilton on a B list celebrity? The same Orton who is a bigger threat to throw the ball to the opposition than he is to his own receiver down the field? The same Orton who not a single player on the team had confidence in? GMAFB....use your eyes!