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QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 03:33 AM) Maybe it has a little bit to do with individual performances. But I guess Mark, Jon and Freddy pitching like s*** in the second half is Ozzie's fault. Same thing with Pods getting hurt, Hermy's back problems, Marte's flakiness, etc. I'm not saying it's the direct cause of the struggles, but maybe next year, Ozzie will maybe take out our starting pitchers an inning early every 5th starter or so in order to try and save some in the tank for the end of the season. Also, we can't really complain about injuries. We've been pretty damn healthy compared to most teams this season.

QUOTE(Allsox @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 03:28 AM) He's been hitting well but WTF was he doing on Berroa's "triple"? Just cementing his reputation as a terrible defensive player. Also, anytime he wants to get a hit with the bases loaded, that would be cool with me.

QUOTE(S720 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 03:25 AM) WHY is it that our starting pitching staff all of the sudden has been so DAMN TERRIBLE lately? Every single one of them! What is going on with them? They better wise up, wake up and start pitching like there's no tomorrow; otherwise, we will never see OUR postseason this year! GOT 9 RUNS AND STILL LOST TO THE LOWLY ROYALS! Some people might argue they've hit the wall after throwing so many pitches all season.

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 03:25 AM) That is the criticism on Ozzie. He tends to stay with these starters to long when they ain't got it. Other then that he doesn't hit or field And that's all I was blaming him for tonight. However, if the ship goes down, usually the captain is the one who goes down with it.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 03:23 AM) The title of the thread should be towards Freddy Garcia. We stake the guy nine f***ing runs, against the KANSAS CITY f***ING ROYALS, AND YOU CAN'T KEEP 'EM UNDER SIX?!?!!?!?!?!!?!?! Gosh damnit, I'm embarassed. I'm embarassed to be a Sox fan right now. This is f***ing horrible. He had gone 5 innings, and allowed 5 runs. Not a great start, but good enough that when you score 9 runs, you should win.

QUOTE(Felix @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 03:19 AM) So its Ozzie's fault that the Sox couldnt field tonight? I hate how he gets the blame when they do poorly. Yes, he's made some questionable calls, but for the most part of the season, those calls have won games. So stop whining when they lose a few. The Sox had total control of this game at 9-5 heading into the bottom of the 6th. Garcia clearly had nothing tonight, and just busted his ass to get out of the 5th inning with 91 pitches thrown. So, why bring him out to start the next inning? That is the move by Ozzie I'm criticizing tonight....and it's a common managing problem he's had all season. He has no clue when to pull his starters.

QUOTE(Beastly @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 03:18 AM) This is THE worst loss I've seen the White Sox play in. EVER. The loss last year where Valentin dropped the foul ball against the Twins when the standings were much closer was a harder loss to take for me. Credit goes to Hawk, he didn't like the feel of the game all night.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 03:17 AM) STFU this time Fathom, STFU. This is not Ozzies fault tonight. For once blame the players. This is all on there shoulders tonight. The 6th inning was simply horrible managing. Go look in the gamethread...you'll see that everyone could tell Garcia was done with. The blame for this game goes directly to Garcia and Hermanson, but this game should have never been this close.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 03:17 AM) Can I have a motion to get a certain pitcher who is in my sig who throws 100 in as the official closer before Mr. Badback does this s*** again. This and El Duque in the rotation is going to f*** us. Hermanson deserved the closing spot until he blew one more game. He did, and he should be removed from the spot. With the way he was throwing tonight, Dye's errors didn't mean s***.

This is the type of game which can easily be the beginning of the end for a team. This was one of the worst losses I can remember for the White Sox.

QUOTE(Felix @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 03:15 AM) There were 2 or 3 plays in the outfield in which our outfielders just couldnt handle the ball.. More like 4

QUOTE(Beastly @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 03:14 AM) f*** this s***. If we go to the playoffs like this, we truely are garbage. We're not going to the playoffs if we play like this.

All I'm going to say is that if the Sox don't make the playoffs, I hope that he gets fired. I'm not blaming him for Hermanson's debacle, but this game should have never been this close.

No meltdown tonight. It's just not worth it.

Dye just lost us the game. Unbelievable.

Can Jenks get loose in the pen, or is he out tonight?

Those 2 runs we gave the Royals in the 6th inning would sure be nice right now. As would the 2 runs we gave them on the wild pitch and the first Pods error.

Good grief Dye! Hermanson is just throwing meatballs to the plate.

Dustin's catching a lot of the plate. He needs to make some good pitches here.

Ugh, one hanger he got away with.

Ok, no hanging sliders Hermanson.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 03:05 AM) Guys does it really matter how we win, so long as we WIN? The most positive thing I've been saying for basically all season is that I don't care how we make it, as long as we make the playoffs, we should all be happy.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 03:05 AM) Guys does it really matter how we win, so long as we WIN? Not at all

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 03:04 AM) Better than him s***ting the bed and us scoring 4 runs. That is true

QUOTE(BFirebird @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 03:04 AM) Crosby might be a stretch...he broke his leg. That one I wasn't sure of.