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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:39 AM) Excellent 1.1 innings thus far Viz. I bet Ozzie lets him start the 8th, and I don't think I'll second guess him unless people start getting on and he leaves Viz in there. Now let's get another run or eight! Viz should get to start the 8th, but if they get one runner, then Cliff should come in. It hurts not having a lefty to face their 1-2 guys in their order.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:38 AM) Thats a big spot and I'd much rather have VIz (who cleaned up COtts mess last week agianst Sweeney) facing Sweeney than COtts. Why? Cotts is dominant against righties. Not only that, but KC had 2 out of 3 lefties after Sweeney was up. I'm just happy that Viz got the job done.

Good job Viz!

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:35 AM) This is why you try to keep Freddy in as long as possible. Cliff threw a lot of pitches last night. Jenks pitched 2 innings. Now you have to go to Viz for awhile. We do have more relievers than usual in the pen, but I doubt Ozzie trusts them enough for a close game. If Marte's going to be out for the year, Ozzie has got to let Cotts go longer in the game.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:34 AM) Fathom you think Oz didn't know Fred had jacks*** for stuff? Oz has been around baseball about 30 years. Oz knew. Oz also knows there's no excuse for Fred sucking like that. It's ridiculous to think Oz didn't know Freddie was sucking. Then why would he start him that inning? I hope Ozzie wasn't trying to challenge Garcia at the expense of the team.

Viz is all over the place. We're one meatball away from a tie game. Oh boy, Hawk just said he has a bad feeling about this game.

Michael Barrett just got creamed by a pitch on the helmet.

Ha, Hawk just said a pitch was close that almost hit the dirt.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:31 AM) I can't believe people are blaming Oz for leaving Fred in 6 innings. Blame the guy throwing the ball. Fred can't shut down the f***ing Royals with 9 runs? Give me a break. Fred has to suck it up and pitch 6 innings for godsakes. It's because he clearly didn't have anything tonight. It's the manager's job to notice that, and pull him proactively rather than reactively.

QUOTE(knightni @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:30 AM) NO award means that you will have a good career. Unless it's the Lifetime Achievement award

Yeah, just cause you win MotY, it doesn't mean your team will have success for a lengthy amount of time. On the other hand, just cause you win MotY, it doesn't mean you're a great manager.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:27 AM) Pods is hitless with the bases loaded this year with 1 RBI on a walk. A flyball to LF on a 2-1 count should not happen. I know it would never happen, but I would love for the Sox to trade Pods to a team eager for a leadoff hitter.

Damn, that was a big out.

Huge AB in this game in regards to momentum.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:23 AM) "Nunez just balked and nobody noticed it" - Farmer I think it's Farmer who does it, but doesn't he accuse every pitcher of balking?

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:23 AM) What he chooses to do works out for the most part. COnsidering this offense has been bad to decent for most of the year, and we've had a hell of a lot of close games in which he's had to make a lot of moves, he has to be doing something right. He makes some moves that make you scratch your head at times, but for the most part they work out. Fair enough.

Crede is swinging with a lot more confidence. He actually looks dangerous.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:19 AM) Haha. Thats fine. I wonder who's opinion I should value. The people who have dealt with major league baseball or a bunch of guys on a message board. hmmm. You mean those same people in major league baseball that would say there's absolutely no comparison between Pods and Sizemore? jphat...do you really think Ozzie is a good in-game manager?

QUOTE(JimH @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:18 AM) Fathom, Ozzie would care about this board ... why?? It was in regards to people swearing at Ozzie, etc. Jim, you're smart enough to know what I was talking about.

OK, then who here actually thinks Ozzie is a good in-game manager?

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:16 AM) LOL. You're calling the AL Manager of the year a terrible manager. The statement is funny in and of itself. I need say nothing. Yes, he's an absolutely terrible manager. I think the list of people who agree with this is growing by the inning.

QUOTE(infohawk @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:14 AM) I understand that keeping the starters in the game through six or seven innings benefits the bullpen, but it seems to me that our bullpen gets plenty of rest. I'm no manager, but wouldn't it be a good idea to have the starters pitch at least an inning less or a certain number of pitches less than what would normally be expected this late into September? That's one way to keep them fresh. I've been saying this same exact thing for a while now. Ozzie needs to trust our bullpen, and maybe taking out the starters a little earlier on a consistent basis would have saved our starters arms a little. They've thrown so many pitches all year, that has to be taken into consideration for their weak performance lately.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:13 AM) SHHHHH. You might hurt Ozzie's feelings. He might not show you his AL manager of the year award in only his second year of managing with a "terrible, terrible offense" if you don't stop yelling at him. I hope he remembers to carry that trophy with him to the unemployment line in the next few seasons. I'm beginning to think you'd rather try to bait myself and others instead of actually commenting on the game. Since there are no personal attacks on this board now, all I can say is

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:12 AM) coming and facing 2 batters, both lefties, and getting only 1 out is not good in my book. Sorry. Yet you had no problem with Garcia starting that inning?

Good job Viz! I hope Neal gets his bowl of water when he's bunking with Marte in Ozzie's doghouse.