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QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:31 AM) Any team for that matter, s*** I was wondering why he took Viz out hes made a complete turn around from the beginning of the season, how stupid I am. Matt Stairs is more feared by Ozzie than almost any other hitter in baseball. Seriously, he almost always makes a pitching change late in the game if Stairs is coming up. However, this is Marte's fault, not Ozzie's this inning.

Ok, please pull Marte before he lets the Royals tie this game. He didn't come close to throwing a good slider tonight.

Marte has hung every slider he's thrown tonight.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:30 AM) And this is why you don't let bad teams think they have a chance to win the game. You don't have to tell me that. There's no use b****ing about it now...just have to win this f'n game.

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:29 AM) Cotts' ERA is at 1.87, that's amazing compared to last year. What a turnaround. And he's a situational lefty now.

Wow, this is getting awful.

jphat....how many threads were there on soxtalk the last few days saying that Duque needs to get turned into a 5 or 6 inning pitcher? This isn't just my typical b****ing.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:23 AM) I was talking to the other guy. I'm not mad at Ozzie or Duque. Duque had a QS. He had given up 1 run in 6 innings. You let him stay out there. I get pissed at free passes. Especially in front of Sweeney. That's why i was much more pissed at Cotts. I don't care what he's done this year. He's been great in his situations. But i'm talkin about tonight. I understand getting pissed at a free pass, but it's not like Cotts threw 4 straight pitches over the batter's head. Rather, he hit Guiel with an inside fastball. It happens...especially for someone who has never had pinpoint control.

All I know is this is 4 straight starts where Duque has allowed a run in his last inning.

QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:19 AM) we're still in good shape here guys, don't panic It's not the panic, it's the fact that Ozzie continues to make the same mistake with Duque in his starts. When everyone but the manager thinks the pitcher should be pulled, it makes you scratch your head.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:20 AM) WTF. I Was saying make the other team earn it. Don't give them free passes in that situation. I knew what you meant. It's just hard to get mad at Cotts for hitting ONE batter. Hell, at the beginning of this year, I would have been happy if Cotts went 1/3- while allowing 2 runners.

PK = he's good. Nice insurance run.

QUOTE(SoxFanForever @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:19 AM) Exactly! But hey, Ozzie goes with his gut. That is more important than the fact that Cotts is our best reliever and Duque could have his arm fall off at any time now. I'm just happy that the Royals made two outs that inning on bunts.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:17 AM) Make people earn it. Don't hit people with a 2 run lead with Sweeney coming up soon. Wow, and I thought I was negative. Even if Cotts would have blown that lead, he's the last person who should be blamed for anything this 2nd half of the year.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:16 AM) ^^^^ One of the best relievers in all of baseball this season, and he's a f***ing LOOGY. Cotts should have started that inning, no doubt about it. Hell, how much conversation has there been about Duque in the press about how he can only go about 6 innings these days without imploding?

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:14 AM) Good job Pablo and Viz! Terrible job Cotts Cotts did his best Marte impression by hitting a lefty on an inside fastball and then allowing a hit to a lefty. I still wish he would have started that inning.

Whew! Good job by Ozuna taking his time on that throw. Now, lets score some more runs and stop playing like this is a 10-0 lead.

Sweeney's 4-6 lifetime vs Vizcaino

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:10 AM) Neal coulda come in and done that. Duque only gave up 1 run. Nothing wrong with staying out for those two batters. You have Teahan, someone who had seen a lot of pitches from Duque on the night. Duque also has shown recently that once he gets around the 90 pitch mark, he totally loses it. Even DJ was saying that Duque shouldn't have been out there. I agree though, you never know what Cotts would have done in that situation.

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:09 AM) fathom you should know "ozzie's going to get the most he can from his starters," hes not gonna change. Sure hes made a lot of games closer than they should this season with the s*** he pulls but at least we win. He gave the Royals the best possible chance to comeback in this game by leaving Duque in to start the 7th. And now Sweeney is the go-ahead run at the dish. Does Ozzie not know that Cotts dominates righties? Of course, we'd have at least another run on the scoreboard if not for one of the worst 3rd base coaching decisions I've seen this year. Come on Viz, keep the ball down!

And now we have ourselves a close ball game. I really hope I'm not the only one livid right now.

Good one Ozzie. Seriously, that's just horrible managing. Does he not learn anything from one start to the next?

QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:02 AM) is the sound f***ed for everyone else? I'm picking up a lot of interference from Hawk and DJ's mics on the comcast feed... Yep

Ozzie....WTF! Why even give the Royals any sense that they have a chance in this game?

QUOTE(JimH @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 01:58 AM) Yeah, it has been cranked up a bit for sure. But they will always be homers, it's a fact of life basically. It's better when the Sox are winning than when they're losing.