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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 04:29 PM) Greg Walker has been trying to get through to Crede for years. It has been in the papers at many different points. Ozzie said the samething at the end of last season. The biggest difference in Uribe is that he has quit swinging at the off-speed crap in the dirt so that he would get some decent pitches to hit. The leg kick is nice, but not swinging at s*** is better. The leg kick has allowed him to keep his hands back more, which also allows him to see the pitch longer. There's been a direct relation between his new leg kick and his patience at the plate.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 04:24 PM) Or it could be they are finally listening to Greg Walker... Both guys are notorious hard heads about listening to coaches, its what got Uribe shipped out of Colorado, and had Crede on the hotseat last year. Ummm....Uribe's new leg kick started after talking to Hriniak, and Crede discovered when watching old films that he needed to keep his hands up more.

Buehrle is a lot more comparable to another Braves star, Tom Glavine.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 04:19 PM) And if you had to pick the pitcher on the Sox staff who's stuff most resembles that of a young Greg Maddux...(possibly throwing with a different arm)...who would that be? 88 mph and a good change-up..... FELIX DIAZ!

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 04:17 PM) Nope neither of them. Greg Maddux. He leads that team in innings pitched, is second in wins, and has started every single game this year. Call me crazy but Maddux also does something else that is key. he keeps his head on straight and doesn't blow up when something goes wrong. Maddux has been their most consistent pitcher this year. Wow, I must say, I completely disagree with that. Jake Westbrook has more wins and innings than Milwood this inning. Does that mean he's better than Milwood? Hell no!

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 04:16 PM) plus his physical issues with him being out of shape will hurt his career. Plus he doesn't give you the innings that Buehrle does. Zambrano pitches a s***load of innings, especially for a strikeout pitcher. It will be interesting to see if Zambrano loses 20 pounds like he wants to this offseason.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 04:14 PM) Zambrano isn't even the best pitcher on that team. He isn't? Besides the hype, he's consistently been better than Prior. And who cares who the best pitcher on the team is? Oswalt isn't the best pitcher on Houston....yet he's still damn good. There's no doubt in my mind that Garland has been our best pitcher this season.

Hell, Zambrano could be our number 3 hitter. And BTW, I HATE THE CUBS!

QUOTE(YASNY @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 04:11 PM) Which begs the question ... Would you trade Buehrle for Zambrano? Yes. There's a much better chance of Zambrano becoming a lights-out ace than Buehrle. Both have thrown a ton of pitches early in their career. Zambrano has that heavy sinker with the great velocity, and even on off nights, he can still keep the ball in the park.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 04:06 PM) Buehrle is much better than zambrano. Almost all of his stats are better. He also pitches in the AL which is a tougher league to pitch in. Also I didn't put the mets on that list. Pedro might be the best SP in the NL right now. Right now i would take Buehrle over Peavy. Im a huge Peavy fan though. There's no one that hates the Cubs more than me, but I would take Zambrano over Buehrle in a second. Zambrano has shown more ability to dominate big games, and once his team gets a 4 run lead, that game is over. Of course, he's a f***ing nutcase, and I would never never trade Buehrle's personality for his.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 03:58 PM) The magnitude 9+ earthquake in the Pacific Northwest (directly under Seattle and Portland) and associated tsunami (last one 300+ years ago killed people in Japan) which is entirely possible at any time would be on that scale. Another Earthquake on the New Madrid fault line, right in the middle of the Ohio Valley, would do the same, since there's been basically no preparation for it. One of those could critically damage Chicago. And then of course, there's the ol' terrorist with a fission device. Or just a big f***ing asteroid in the sky. Hopefully Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck can save us!

The White Sox just have to keep on winning games. The Yankees are on a roll, and they still have a ton of games against an awful Orioles team. It definitely doesn't seem like the Sox will be able to just back themselves into the playoffs. Remember this though...the Yankees or Red Sox are guaranteed to lose at least two more games this season.

Two guys that seemingly got away from Greg Walker, and were able to make successful adjustments. SSI could have a field day on this topic.

I refuse to jinx the Rally Crede.

If AJP did that to a Sox player in the past, we would have gone nuts about it. However, since he's a good guy, and not an enemy, you won't hear any complaints from me. Now I know how Illinois basketball fans must have felt with Lucas Johnson.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 06:59 AM) I'm am mentally exhausted. I seriously need to take a break from this team. When Jenks blew it in the 9th again, I was ready to kill somebody. Joe Crede is my new god. I will pray to his image like the muslims pray to allah. Are you trying to say allah can't hit a curve ball?

Tomorrow would be a great day to give Everett a rest, DH Konerko, and put Gload at 1b.

Took a deep breath, introduced myself to my girlfriend for the fist time in two days, and went and got a bushel of Chicken McNuggets from McDonalds.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 06:42 AM) The Sox have came back from a deficit to win. of two or more runs

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 03:51 AM) Joe Crede >>> Jeff Abbot I think I went about as crazy now as I did when Abbot hit that one. Of course I went crazy 2 years ago when Frank creamed Everyday Eddie's pitch out of the park for the win. Those are the 3 most important walkoffs we've had in recent years, with Carlos Lee and Jose Valentin's homers vs the Cubs being big ones also. However, tonight's homer was easily the most important homer in a long, long time for the Sox. I don't want to think what the morale of the team would have been if they lost this game.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 04:08 AM) Really these past two games have been awesome. Just total playoff atmosphere. Great fans and one of the games had a great result. After I stepped away from the computer once the game was over, and went to get food, I finally was able to just relax and enjoy how great these last two games were. The crowds were f***ing loud, and definitely should be given credit.

I don't know how he did it, but good job Hermanson. Nice to see Rowand CATCH the ball.

Hermanson has nothing! Ozzie should pull him before he leaves a pitch over the plate that goes a long way. Hermanson is trying to battle his ass off, but he just doesn't have it.

And Boone just shows our hitters the type of approach they needed.

QUOTE(ChiSox_Sonix @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 03:26 AM) why cant WE get the big hits??? Maybe because our hitters have a terrible approach with RISP?